Re: Why...

In article <eoidnbcTQLoEEWLenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Arny Krueger" <arnyk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" <artyguy04@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote in message
news:1140820622.381497.99460@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subjectivists play the preference card because its any
port in a storm.

No, because THAT'S WHAT THE ENJOYMENT OF MUSIC BOILS
DOWN TO.

That would be relevant in a group about listening to
music for the pure enjoyment of music, but this like
RAHE is is an audio group.

Were you really kicked out of r.a.h.e?

Of course, how many times do you need to read that to believe it?

Why don't you go to rec.audio.trash.preference? LOL!

Yawn.

And by the way, that's the other well-known escape act
of subjectivists. They try to turn audio groups into
groups about listening to music for enjoyment, musical
artist fan clubs, etc.

Straw man argument. Nobody that I've seen in the threads
about Jenn and LPs has done that.

You haven't been here long enough.

That is one of your
favorite escape acts: divert attention away from how
poorly you behave.

Yawn. See what I mean about diverting attention away from the topic and into
playing personalities?

People with interests like that should find a group with
the name .music. in it. I think there are over 1,000 of
them. Apparently, not enough!

Apprently, you should also frequent
rec.audio.strawman.arguments. LOL!

Ditto.

If someone says, "My Boulder amps sound good to me" you
would tell them that they spent too much and could have
gotten the same sound from QSC.

Try it, it will never happen.

If someone says, "I like
LPs" you would tell them, as you are here, that
technically CDs are far superior and that they should
have their hearing checked.

Nope, Jenn's hook is: I'm a symphony orchestra conductor and that makes my
opinion better than anybody else.

Yet again, that's NOT what I've stated. I've stated that if we're
comparing sounds that are attempting to replicate the sound of live
instruments/voices, I'm well qualified to do that because I hear the
standard more than most people do and I'm trained to (and paid for)
hearing and listening very subtle differences in sound. I always find
it interesting when this argument is held against me that similar
arguments are not held against those who are trained to, for example,
diagnose vision problems. People don't go to the eye doctor and, when
told they need glasses, tell the doc, "I suppose you think your opinion
is better than mine!" Or a mason, or a mechanic, or... It's not
"bragging" when an auto mechanic claims to know cars better than I do.
He/she is trained and has experience in that field.

If somebody says, "Violins on
well-recorded LPs sound more natural to me" you would
say, as you are here, that it was impossible for that to
be the case.

It's been done and it passed, if presented exactly like that.

All of these are statements of preference. All of these
are valid audio opinions (which IS the name of this
group).

In some sense there is no such thing as an invalid opinion.

So, if Jenn would play it straight, she would get a pass.

???

You apparently want to change it to
rec.audio.agree.with.arnys.opinions.or.else

More of the usual golden ear whining...

That you won't simply admit that you're trashing
preference, when you even say that "Subjectivists play
the preference card because its any port in a storm"
meaning that attacking preference is OK in your mind, is
hilarious.

just expressing my opinion which is apparently invalid in your book, Mr.
Listener

And as I said, I really do not care that you do it. I
just find it laughable that you can't ADMIT that you do
it.

I'm just expressing my preferences, what's wrong with that?

Wrap yourself in the Cloaks of Righteousness. Go forth
and teach the ignorant masses. They apparently don't
really know what they like. And they can't figure it out
without you. LOL!

Yawn. When will they update the current model of golden ear with brains?
.

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