Re: And Yes, Folks, Come Fall It'll Only Be a 2-Network Universe
- From: William George Ferguson <wmgfrgsn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 18:38:43 -0700
On Mon, 25 May 2009 13:57:16 -0700 (PDT), WQ <wq@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On May 25, 4:13 pm, William George Ferguson <wmgfr...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
On Sun, 24 May 2009 23:31:49 -0700 (PDT), WQ <w...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:--- By "scripted," let's not fool ourselves into believing it can be
On May 25, 1:16 am, William George Ferguson <wmgfr...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
applied to anything.
And, of course, I didn't. I acknowledged that there is some level of
scripting on vertually every program, except live breaking news and live
sports (and even there...), but that for this purpose I'm only looking at
'original scripted series', meaning ongoing shows (comedies, dramas, etc.)
with a continuing cast and story background. Anthology shows and movies
are certainly scripted, but are not original scripted series, for me.
I think you're well aware enough to realize that
scripted applies to fictional treatments of comedic and dramatic
stories.
Comedy-variety shows are also scripted because there are
monologues by and dialogues between performers along with comedy
sketches [again, fictional treatments in relating a story]. Movies
can be included in the count because they perfectly fall into that
category, even if they are specifically produced for the big screen
and not the home screen. But even in that case, there were made-for-
television movies popularized in the 70s, which actually were an
extension of the scripted drama anthology series of the 50s and early
60s.
You didn't start out talking about returning to anthology shows and movies
(I agree that they are basically the same sort of thing, but I don't agree
that they are the same sort of thing as original scripted series). As for
variety shows, American Idol and So You Think You Can Dance are just as
scripted as Carol Burnett and Milton Berle were. If you include variety
shows, performance type faux-reality shows are the same sort of thing (just
more mean spirited).
Okay, let's look at fall 1970.
Comparing 1964 to 1970 (and throwing in 1980)
Year Total OrigScripted Pct
1964 73.5 43.5 59.2
1970 74.5 39.5 53.0
1980 65.0 35.0 53.8
(in Fall 1980, there were already 4 hours of what we would now call
'reality series) on the schedule)
--- Try not to skip the seasons when there were only 2-3 hours of
reality-type shows, you know, like 1968-70 and 1971-78?
On the 1964 fall schedule there was only one 'reality-type' show (Candid
Camera), and in 1970, there were none.
As has been said, "the good old days never were".
--- Well, 9 out of 10 seasons between 1968-78 were, And actually,
there were 9 hours of reality-type shows in the fall of 1980. It was
also a fall that really didn't become a fall season until January
1981. I don't know if you remember, but that was an industry strike
year and the fall schedules were in such total disarray that without
going through those first few months of the season week by week to
calculate what was what, it's virtually impossible to determine the
actual breakdown. That's why when you refer to any fall 1980 grid to
know what was on then, it's only a best composite of what was on, as
opposed to what actually aired, between September and December. And
the reason why those reality shows did appear that year was basically
to fill up dead air while the networks waited for the real stuff - the
scripted stuff - to finally come to air. The same thing happened, to
a bit less extent, the following season.
One, I refer to dirt as 'that young whippersnapper' and
Two, We apparently have different definitions of 'reality-type series'
Here's the faux-reality shows I saw
Those Amazing Animals (ABC)-Sunday
That's Incredible (ABC) - Monday
Real People (NBC) - Wednesday
Games People Play (NBC) - Thursday
These shows were on the schedule, but not faux-reality shows (far as I'm
concerned)
60 Minutes (CBS) - Sunday (news)
Monday Night Football (ABC) - Monday (sports)
20/20 (ABC) - Thursday (news)
NBC Magazine with David Brinkley (NBC) - Friday (news)
As far as I'm concerned, anything that actually is, you know, real doesn't
qualify as 'reality-type shows' :)
Now it's possible there were some other 'reality-type shows' (that we would
both agree are cra... 'reality-type shows'). If so, what were they?
As for 71-79,
1971 16.5 hours movies, 5 hours variety, 2 hours sports,
2.5 hours anthology
1972 15.5 hours movies, 7 hours variety, 2 hours sports, 2 hours anthology,
1 hour newsmaazine
1973 16 hours movies, 5 hours variety, 2.5 hours anthology, 2 hours sports
1974 14.5 hours movies, 2 hours sports, 2 hours variety, 1 hour anthology
1975 10 hours movies, 4 hours variety, 1 hour anthology
1976 11.5 hours movies, 7 hours variety, 2 hours anthology, 2 hours sports,
1 hour newsmagazine
1977 10 hours movies, 4 hours anthology, 2 hours variety, 1 hour news
1978 12 hours movies, 5 hours anthology, 3 hours variety, 1 hour news,
1 hour reality
1979 12 hours movies, 3 hours anthology, 3 hours news, 1 hour variety
1975 is the closest to what you're describing (given that you like watching
movies on television). A little under 80% of the schedule was original
scripted programming at the start of the season,
I did a quick check up to the first Fox season, and there was always at
least one variety show on the schedule.
--
I have a theory, it could be bunnies
.
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