Re: A comment re the "The Closer" mid-season finale, "Time Bomb"

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"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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P.S. Um, why did Deputy Chief strip down to a tank top for the shoot
out?

She was changing from "Ditzy but smart" mode to "Hot chick with a gun
kickin ass" mode.

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Speaking of the shootout, it really is pretty lame for the detectives to
empty at least 10 magazines shooting at the perp and not bring him down. I
don't care if he was wearing a vest or not. You still feel the impact of
shots caught by the vest, enough so that you should be on your ass sooner or
later. Additionally, there's no armor on the arms, legs or head. Shooting in
the arms and legs kills (by blood loss) or immobilizes the perp and a head
shot is usually always effective. With that many bullets aimed at the perp,
either the detectives are all horrible shots or they expect viewers to
simply ignore that none of the lead found the bad guy.
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I think real life has one on you. First, most of the time they
couldn't get good shots at him at him because he was behind excellent
cover Remember Lt. Tao and Detective Daniels firing up at the bomber
who was behind the mall's roof coping? They were under fire from an
assault rife on full automatic. Even on the roof they had to dive for
cover from the assault rifle. They were under live automatic fire,
not at the firing range for their quarterly qualifications, so it is
no wonder that they were "terrible shots". And when they did hit him
the gun isn't as powerful as you imagine. Even at close range say 20
feet, the human body isn't going be propelled backwards like in the
movies or TV shows. The person gets shot and crumples to the floor if
it is a particularly debilitating wound or is killed out right. He
will not be knocked back head over heels. Here is a real life example
to compare the scene with.

In the 1997 North Hollywood Shootout in which bank robbers had a
running gun battle with the LAPD, who they had pinned down very
effectively. They were outfitted with body armor as well as having
assault rifles on full automatic. They weren't knocked down by
gunfire from 9mm automatics and .38cal revolvers either:

The patrol officers were armed with standard Beretta 92-type 9 mm
pistols and .38 caliber revolvers, and some also carried 12-gauge
pump-action shotguns, but the body armor worn by Phillips and
Matasareanu was strong enough to withstand them.[11]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout

Those weapons simply don't have the the stopping power to knock you
down. Nor were they knocked down from the pump action shotguns the
LAPD used against them. So in this case that gun battle scene at the
end of the season finale of "The Closer" was quite accurate. Like
with the real life LAPD, for most of that shootout Major Crimes
Division (née Priority Homicide) was pinned by a fusillade of
automatic assault weapon fire. Again, they were too busy ducking for
their lives to take careful aim for head shots, although they tried
(I think it was Tao calling for a head shot), and their training is
to shoot for the center mass in any event. Heads and arms are
actually quite small targets, microscopic if the owner of that head
is firing at you with an assault rife, and hand guns are not as
accurate as rifles.

When the bomber's rifle jammed (similar to what happened to one of
the bank robbers in the North Hollywood incident), he ran back to get
his pipe bombs to use as hand grenades. At that time Chief Johnson
gave the order to shoot the bag of pipe bombs, and as we saw it was
Sergent Gabriel who detonated them with his 9mil (also remember the
final 30 or so seconds of that scene was done in super slow motion so
form her command to shoot the bombs to the explosion was only perhaps
less than ten seconds) so they weren't even targeting him
directly then.

Its funny, but you are unknowingly criticizing that scene for being
too realistic.
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