Re: "Blood Ties" on Lifetime?

In article <f8jdv25jkjtep8jrgcgp3h4erl4cmi76o1@xxxxxxx>,
William George Ferguson <wmgfrgsn@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

This is a little frustrating, in that I'm still waiting to see it, but want
to comment anyway.

On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 08:10:47 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8Rfsk@xxxxxxx> wrote:

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Okay, 5 minutes in, and I already hate this. Our star begins by
bitching to her mother about men who open the door for her on
dates
(THE
FIENDS) and then lets somebody get MURDERED because she has to
take
the
time to tell her mother she loves her and will call her later
before
trying to help, and then all the men show up and are stupid and
incompetent and evil.

Yeah, it's LIFETIME.

I agree that that was bad. The comment about a man opening the door
for
her
made me groan. Then not being able to hang up on her mom while
she's
witnessing an attack. She couldn't have stopped the murder, but she
didn't
know that.

I think you can justify her behavior, (if you kept watching, and I
understand if you didn't), by her eye problem and impending
blindness.

I gather it that her "he tried to read me the menu" comment to her
mom
might have been in reference to the blindness (I note she wasn't
wearing
her glasses) but within the context of the scene it didn't come
across.
It got grouped in with "he held the door for me" and "he tried to
pull
out my chair" -- the FIEND. How DARE he be polite on a first date??
How DARE he treat her nicely!?!?!?

The above all sounds like a conversation with her mother that is lifted
directly from the book, that is, it sounds like a case where the annoyance
is the actual character, not a tv add-on.

It was the very first thing we heard her say, which, as has been pointed
out, wasn't very endearing. :)

She's clearly defensive about being taken care of. That idea could
have
been expressed MUCH better though, especially in the very important
first
five minutes.

Yes

I didn't like her at all until the second hour.

By the second hour, I'd been gone for 50 minutes.

Overall, I'd give the show a 'meh'. I'll watch again, but I'm not
all
that
excited about it.

I take it she never told the cops why she quit? She just snipes at
them
instead?

No, she's told them. And honestly, their reaction is pretty annoying
too.
Mike, her ex-partner, advises her to take vitamins for her condition.

I really need to see this. Mike does say something like that in the book,
but it's not as contextually insensitive as this sounds.

Yeah, then his reaction was annoying and didn't make a lot of sense. He
was mad at her for leaving the force? Did she even have a choice? They
played it like she'd kept it a secret; just quit and become a private
eye. I hope the vampires get the whole lot of them. :)

It seemed to me the guys were acting like she should just suck it up, like
she was running away by quitting.

k

She wasn't forced out, but she said she had the choice of resigning or
taking a desk job. It wasn't clear whether she'd come to that conclusion
on
her own or was told that by her boss.


Even at the time the book was written, you couldn't be fired for a medical
disability. In the books, and it sounds like in the show. she resigned
rather than accept a desk job. Being reassigned to the desk job was a
medical necessity. I'm assuming that the show has covered that she is, to
a great extent, night blind, and losing her peripheral vision.

Not before I gave up on it. It might well have played WAY better had I
read the book. And the first scene was her walking along the street at
night and noticing the vampire killing the guy in the dark alley across
the street off to her right side, so it must be pretty early onset. She
did run out in front of a car; that might have been an homage to 'night
blind' as might the 'tried to read me the menu' but, again, I didn't
know about the night blind bit.

Even she
understands that she no longer physically qualifies as police detective,
she just won't accept a reduced role.

Remember that idiotic series about the blind cop who sued or something
to get full cop priveleges, even carrying a gun?

Another thing that bothers me with this situation is that as a P.I, she
still seems to have full access to police information. She visits the
coroner multiple times, and she looks through their files of reported
stolen
cars. No one put up more than a token resistance to her hanging around.
That struck me as overly implausible. Aren't there laws about that sort
of
thing?

That's what the ex partner was angry about in the one scene I saw with
him; that she could quit the force and still go around expecting to be
treated like a cop, which seemed a pretty legitmate grievance on his
part.

It's also a major plot thingie in the books. She uses her knowledge and
contacts to get police information, and the police aren't officially happy
about it.

Sure. As I said, it seemed a legitimate grievance on his part,
especially if he didn't know why she quit.

it's pretty much the first thing he says. He arrives at the scene and
yells at her. She responded by saying he was incapable of closing a
case without her. 'cause, you know, he's an evil incompetent man, and
she carried him his whole career and all.

And P.I.s using contacts and familiarity with the process to get
information out of the police is a standard trope going back to the
hard-boiled detective stories of the 20s and 30s. Vicki is walking in the
footsteps of Sam Spade, Paul Drake, Archie Goodwin, et.al. there.

Absolutely. And Magnum PI, and any number of ex military characters.
.

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