Re: Y&R More signs of old regime control (plus B&B)

MarkH <sliprwet@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In the case of Y&R, I think it's more than money. I think
she viewed Y&R as her "baby"...and it'shard to leave your
baby behind.

Yes ... it was more than just a job, and not just to KA.
Unfortunately, it's not easy to successfully mix those who put in years
of heart and soul with those who only view it as a job. In an ideal
situation, they would learn from EACH OTHER, but that would require a
willingness on BOTH sides to collaborate. That didn't exist.

It would be a cold day in hell, but like I said, I seldom say "never"
anymore.

Yeah, esp. with Kay Alden scabbing (ahem, FiCore) on B&B.

It would be a cold day in hell for most, IMO. The Real DM's take is more
widely held, agreed with, and accepted. That said, however, this is a
critical time for the soap opera genre, and it's hard to not consider
that reason for why some have gone FiCore.

Jeez, Mark! LML all but destroyed their baby -- the stories, the
characters, some of the history -- and you want to know if THEY learned
THEIR lessons? Not that there weren't *a few* (relatively speaking)
initial noteworthy improvements, but overall, LML's methodology was a
damn good illustration/lesson of how NOT to write a soap opera! The
people in question would be the first to give credit where credit is
due, but if they were to be asked to come back to help put this derailed
train back on the tracks, I sure as heck wouldn't make it part of my
pitch to ask them if **THEY** learned any lessons from all this! In
fact, if anyone should be asked that question, that would be the
instigator who handed the keys to the city to LML in the name of
"modernization".

Yeah, but the old regime got replace FOR A REASON. That reason, I
gather, was perceived inflexibility to modernization.

I disagree about that reason. And when you have an entity as important
as Y&R (not just to viewers/customers, but to the GENRE in general), you
don't bring in the wrecking ball and start knocking down weight-bearing
supports based on "*perceived* inflexibility" and expect that the
structure won't collapse, partially or completely. That's both careless
and crazy.

If they come back, it can't just be "our old way was right". They DO
have to listen, and they DO have to figure out what from the past two
years WAS better...and what they want to keep.

Well now, wouldn't it have been prudent for there to have been a mandate
of the new group to LISTEN to those who had been doing it successfully
for three decades, to figure out what from those past DECADES was
valuable, and what they should keep BEFORE they began such a drastic,
carelessly-executed makeover?

I doubt they're coming back, but seems to me, with how quickly input
from the old regime was thought to be no longer useful/needed and then
witnessing the decline of the show under the new, modern regime, perhaps
THEY *are* the ones who should to be listened to!

The "our old way was right" attitude, *to the complete exclusion of new
input and ideas* would not be good for the show; but when a formula is
proven successful through as many years as the old formula was, bottom
line is that the old way WAS right. That doesn't mean it didn't need
some tweaking, as nearly ANY successful formula in ANY business needs
from time to time; but bottom line is that the old way WAS right, as
affirmed by you and others with your kudos/happiness on the return to
the show of many elements and nuances of "old Y&R".

I hear what you're sayin', Mark ... but sometimes there's good cause to
have it acknowledged that your way was right!

Shirl
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