Re: OT low carb (was Re: GL --- I Thought I Might Watch GL Today....)



producethis2@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Dana Carpender wrote:

Dana Carpender wrote:




And my boring diet food tonight was African Peanut Soup, full of
tomatoes, chicken, onions, garlic, cayenne, curry, celery, homemade
chicken broth, and natural peanut butter.  Gee, I feel sorry for myself.



FTR, I just took my blood sugar, roughly 2 hours after a lunch of that
same soup (it was a big darned batch of soup).  It's at 86.  Utterly
normal.

Anyone want to explain to me again how I need treatment? 


What needs to be explained to you is that you have diabetes.  Diabetes
is a very complex disease and only a medical professional should be
consulted with to determine how it is affecting you.  To pretend that
you don't have it because you get one or two normal bg readings is
ridiculous.

You're missing it: I have taken my blood glucose off and on for several years -- not every day, but in many different situations. I have *never* found it to be abnormally high unless I had deliberately eaten an uncharacteristically high level of carbohydrates.


But I'm wondering if you just made up the brown rice spiking you to 188
as a way to push your agenda which is "carbs are evil" so you can sell
more books.

Right. 'Cause I need to scrounge publicity in a teeny little forum on usenet, when an estimated 3% of people who are on the internet even know usenet exists, and a handful of those people care about CBS soaps. Selling over a million and a half books, being nationally syndicated as a columnist, and having been on the Today Show, Wayne Brady, Fox and Friends, QVC, WGN, and dozens of radio programs isn't enough, no, I need to hang out on usenet and make *** up.

But since you're so worked up about this, I found the notebook I took notes in for the experiment. And I was wrong about the 188, I topped out at 183. That was about 45 minutes after eating the rice. By about 2 hours later, my BG was down to 127.

Now, all the info I can find says that it's the 2 hour GTT and the fasting BG they look at. My fasting BG is fine; rarely much above 70. And in a 2 hour GTT, a BG of 127 2 hours after drinking the glucose is also normal. (I got less than 75 grams of carbohydrate in the rice, but OTOH, I'd also expect it to absorb more slowly than glucose by quite a lot, and give a gentler rise, with a corresponding gentler fall.)

In short, I'm not really worried about this, but I'll mention it to my doctor next time I see her.

 Atkins was a passing fad

Atkins had been around since the 1970s, and I have low carb books dating back to 1914. The first mass-market diet book in the English language was _Banting's Letter on the Reduction of Corpulence_ in the mid-1800s. When I was a kid it was common wisdom that if you wanted to lose weight you gave up potatoes, spaghetti, bread, and sweets.

For that matter, the best evidence is that we evolved on a low carb diet: http://tinyurl.com/c9sct

And surveys show that as many people are eating low carb right now as were eating low carb a year and a half ago. They're just not calling it that -- it's just "eating healthy" or "watching my carbs."

Low fat/high carb was the fad.


and extreme low carb eating is
not recommended by the professional medical community.

The professional medical community is very mixed on the issue. I personally know many doctors who recommend a low carb diet, including one of my home town's leading cardiologists. I know many more people who have been put on low carb diets by their doctors.

I trust, too, that it hasn't escaped you that Bob Atkins was a cardiologist trained at Cornell, the authors of Protein Power are both MDs, as is Dr. Bernstein, who wrote _Dr. Bernstein's Diabetes Solution_? Bernstein is himself a diabetic, BTW.

The ADA doesn't recommend low carb, but then the ADA is run by people with huge investments in firms making diabetes medication, and has recently accepted a big-assed grant from Cadbury/Schwepps, a huge candy and soda pop corporation -- after which they announced that sugar was harmless for diabetics. Their, er, objectivity is in doubt.


That's
something that should be explained to the people reading this thread. 

And your qualifications are?

I will mention the 188 reading to my doctor next time I see her
.

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