Re: Never mind ROVE the AG quit

On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 07:23:27 -0700, Calvin <crice5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Aug 30, 3:59 am, Matthew Winn <*...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:27:52 -0700, Calvin <cri...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Sir, There are two common ways of adding comments at the
bottom of posts. One way is a standard or rotating/random
sig, like you say yours is. Another ptactice is to add a
further comment to the post, as illustrated below.
I could not tell which you intended, because I don't know you.
Maybe if you would insert a line of dashes or something,
it would be clear that your intended sig is really a sig.

The _standard_, as used by Christopher Jahn, is to mark the end of the
message and the start of the signature with a line containing nothing
but two hyphens and a space. It's been that way for more years than I
can remember. (That particular combination was chosen because it's
easy for both humans and software to recognise but unlikely to appear
in the running text, thereby allowing good newsreaders to strip out a
message's signature when replying to that message.)

If you weren't aware of the standard for delimiting signatures and
misinterpreted a signature as part of a message that's entirely your
fault. It's not as if there's any shortage of examples around here.

Here is his complete post, following the headers and his
quote from my post:
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What country did YOU grow up in? It obviously wasn't the USA.

--

}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( http://soflatheatre.blogspot.com/

There's nothing wrong with you a shotgun blast to the face
couldn't fix.
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Yes, and there's the signature delimiter, right where it's supposed
to be. You were the one who ignored the delimiter and treated the
signature as if it were part of the message.

You conveniently ignored my pointing out another
practice often used at the bottom of posts. If you
asked around, I doubt that many people nowadays
know about the 'standard' of two hyphens and
an invisible space.

There's no need for scare quotes around the word "standard". It _is_
the standard. The fact that you didn't know that isn't Mr Jahn's
fault.

I can't remember it being any other way, and if you come here and make
a mistake because you haven't bothered to learn how Usenet works when
other people have, that's your problem. You can't worm your way out of
it by saying that some people do things differently. That just means
they're wrong too. There are plenty of examples of correct delimiter
use around here that you could have learned from (after all, you say
you've been looking in on this group for years), and despite your
claim that...

Another ptactice is to add a further comment to the post, as illustrated below

....I can't find anyone who has done that apart from you in that one
post. In every case where people have added comments after their name
it's obvious that the comment is an undelimited signature rather than
a continuation of the body of the post, and for you to say otherwise
appears to be nothing other than a disingenuous attempt to claim that
Mr Jahn's post was misleading.

--
Matthew Winn
[If replying by mail remove the "r" from "urk"]
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