Re: O/T: Top Ten Things Liberals Believe

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mw wrote:

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mw wrote:


The "oversight" of which you speak was done by the congress which passed the USE OF FORCE resolution on Sept. 15th 2001 and passed the Patriot Act giving the President all the power he needed to fight terrorism, domestically and abroad.   The "oversight" will also accur in the hearings that the congress will hold on this issue next year.  That is OVERSIGHT!


Several congresspersons have said that's not what was passed -- just Shrub's interpretation and usurpation of powers. And ex post facto hearings, months after the abuses, are not "oversight." Those are investigations. 


Investigations are a form of checks and balances, pal!



Of course, but they're locking the barn door after Shrub has stolen the horse.

And on the topic of spying, here's another of Shrub's many lies:

George W. Bush, in Buffalo, NY, on April 20, 2004, at 9:49 a.m., talking about the USA Patriot Act:

Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution.

Either he was lying then or now. Take your choice. 


Ha!  You just made that up!!


See what I mean about concrete for brains? When confronted with facts or evidence contrary to your mistaken ideas, you simply dismiss them as made up. Apparently, the inability to deal with reality is typical of Faux News followers.

Here, read it and weep. Or maybe you'll just think the *White House* made this up:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040420-2.html

It's about halfway down. I hope your lips don't get too tired before then.


You just don't get it!!! I don't REALLY believe that you made that stuff up. (THough it would not surprise me if you did.) I am just turning the tables on you. This is exactly what you do when people post things that don't fit into your narrow, ultra-liberal, hate-filled view of the world. "Where is the proof?" WHen I posted quotes of Cindy Sheehan on a previous thread, quotes that anyone who doesn't get all their news from NPR or the NY Times KNOWS she said, you accused me of making them up! 

Which you *did* -- like most of the right-wing wacko charges you post.

I didn't, and posted the source.
You still haven't.

Ironic, isn't it.
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    ... Those are investigations. ... Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. ... It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution. ...
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