Re: O/T: Top Ten Things Liberals Believe


"Bushwhacker" <room@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:slGpf.7088$hI1.1565@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ROBERT WRIGHT wrote:
>> "Robert Steinberg" <midiopera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:20051218220341588303@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>>ROBERT WRIGHT <mikey73@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>The correspondences that were being tapped by the NSA may have initiated
>>>
>>>from the USA, but they were not sent ot folks in the USA --they were
>>>folks calling or corresponding with folks in other nations. This falls
>>>under the definition of Foreign surveillance.
>>>
>>>Eavesdropping Effort Began Soon After Sept. 11 Attacks
>>>By ERIC LICHTBLAU and JAMES RISEN
>>>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/18/politics/18spy.html
>>>3rd paragraph
>>>
>>>The agency operation included eavesdropping on communications between
>>>Americans and other individuals in the United States and people in
>>>Afghanistan without the court-approved search warrants that are normally
>>>required for such domestic intelligence activities.
>>>--
>>
>>
>> Um, I think you are misunderstanding the above quote. "The agency operation included eavesdropping on communications between
>> Americans and other individuals in the United States" --thus there were two types of folks making the calls from America, AMERICANS and OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE U.S, meaning non-Americans who live in the United States NOT meaning that the communications were taking place between "Americans and other individuals in the U.S". Do you see what I mean? THe eavesdropping took place between Americans and non-Americans (both in America) who were communicating with folks in Afghanistan. Thus these calls were indeed Foreign.
>> Hope I cleared that up.
>>
>>
>
> And just how do you know this so specifically? Unless you are privy to
> more records than most congresspeople are, you have *no* idea whose
> phones were tapped or conversations monitored. You're just taking the
> word of Shrub and other officials who have repeatedly and consistently
> lied about the war, torture, detention camps, etc.
>
> Since you're so comfortable with the president allowing unmonitored
> spying, I trust that when Hillary or some other Democrat wins the
> presidency in 2008, you won't let out a peep when she or he authorizes
> *any* kind of spying "to fight the war on terror."

No I won't.
However, when Hillary starts sneaking around with 900 FBI files in an attempt to dig up dirt on her political opponents, I WILL let out a peep, although the NY TIMES and other members of the left wing media will not. And when Hillary starts using the IRS to attack and intimidate her political opponents, once again I will let out a peep.
I make a distinction between the government eavesdropping on the conversations of EVIL people who are trying to do harm to Americans, and an administration using stolen FBI files and the IRS to to silence its' critics. Do YOU?
BTW Where stands the NY Times when it comes to the release of the Barrett Report? Why aren't they leaking out that info or calling that it be released to the press via the FOIA? The Barrett Report has nothing to do with our NATIONAL SECURITY, it just might prove a bit embarassing to the Clintons and could bring HIllary's presidential bid to a screeching stop!


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