Re: O/T: Top Ten Things Liberals Believe

"ROBERT WRIGHT" <mikey73@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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>> In 2004, however, it *would* have been big news that he was
>> authorizing illegal spying, and had the Times reported it, it
>> could well have affected what people thought about his
>> so-called "war on terrorism."
>
> Yes, it is terrible that George W. Bush was using intellegence
> to listen on folks in America (NOT necessarily AMERICANS) who
> might be communicating with Al-Queda. If he had been doing
> this prior to 9/11 perhaps he would have discovered the many
> correspondences between Mohammed Atta and his AL Queda
> buddies. If only! Bush should have taken an example from
> Bill Clinton who pulled confidential FBI files on
> terrorists....Oops, I mean political oponents. And why doesn't
> Bush follow another Clinton precedent by using the IRS and
> audits to try to intimidate his political oponents.

ACtually, if Congress had funded its own 1989 law requiring that
all passenger lists be compared to the FBI and CIA terrorist
databases, 9/11 could never have occurred.

It is Congress itself as whole that is directly responsible for
all the lives lost, not Clinton, and not Bush.


>
>> Even now, the news has changed people's views and helped
>> derail renewal of the "Patriot" Act.
>>
>
> Which I predict will be big mistake for the democrats and
> even the Republicans who did not renew the Patriot Act. When
> the CLinton Administration is pulling FBI files, not of
> suspected terrorists, but of political oponents. When the
> Clinton administration is using the IRS to intimidate and
> audit its political oponents, once again it is no big deal.

I don't agree with that conclusion. I think it IS a big deal,
and as I recall, there was an investigation and the guilty
parties were punished.

It's just one of those bothersome facts that the guilty party was
not Clinton.

> But when the Bush Administration uses current technology to
> monitor those with suspected terrorist ties, oh how HORRIBLE!

The problem is that there are laws that dictate how that
technology is to be implimented, and those laws are inviolable.
Those laws are in place to prevent abuses of power, and certainly
we have seen that a sitting President can and has abused that
power.

The problem is that we only have his word that he was only using
it to monitor terrorists, and I don't trust him because he's
already broken the law to do it, why wouldn't he lie to justify
his crime?

Congress creates the law of the land; the President has to obey
it. He has an opportunity to veto it, but if overridden, the law
applies. And that's really the end of the matter. Bush broke
the law, and no one, not even the President of the US is above
the law, as you are so quick to point out about Clinton's
extensive persecution over lying about a blowjob.

--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
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You're never alone with schizophrenia.
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