Re: OT: Why does the Right hate relativity?



On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 00:01:04 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

You know, an *honest* man would have acknowledged the fact that I was
correct about the quote in my signature.

David Loewe, Jr. wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:04:38 -0800 (PST), Robert Carnegie
<rja.carnegie@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:

See signature...
--
"...and Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess.
They [socialists] always run out of other people's money. It's quite a
characteristic of them."
- Margaret Thatcher

Although something like that is often attributed to Mrs Thatcher (now
Baroness Thatcher),
<http://yedda.com/questions/Socialism_Eventually_Run_Money_5189143418970/>
for one is not sure that she said it at all. But thinks, as I suppose
you may do, that that isn't the point.

Note that I did not use the common version of the quote - "The trouble
with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/thatcher.asp

http://www.margaretthatcher.org/speeches/displaydocument.asp?docid=102953

"Llew Gardner

There are those nasty critics, of course, who suggest that you don't
really want to bring them down at the moment. Life is a bit too
difficult in the country, and that ? leave them to sort the mess out and
then come in with the attack later ? say next year.[fo 13]

Mrs. Margaret Thatcher

I would much prefer to bring them down as soon as possible. I think
they've made the biggest financial mess that any government's ever made
in this country for a very long time, and Socialist governments
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
traditionally do make a financial mess. They always run out of other
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them. They then start to
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
nationalise everything, and people just do not like more and more
nationalisation, and they're now trying to control everything by other
means. They're progressively reducing the choice available to ordinary
people. Look at the trouble now we're having with choice of schools. Of
course parents want a say in the kind of education their children have.
Look at the William Tyndall School?an example where the parents finally
rebelled. Of course they did. These schools are financed by taxpayers'
money, but the choice to parents is being reduced.

Look at the large numbers of people who live on council estates. Many of
them would like to buy their own homes. Oh, but that's not approved of
by a Socialist government ? . oh no! But that's absurd. Why shouldn't
they? Well over thirty per cent of our houses are council houses. Why
shouldn't those people purchase their own homes if they can?"

Because they belong to someone who doesn't want to sell? Who,
specifically, doesn't want to sell houses for a fraction of what
they're worth commercially, let alone what they would cost to
replace. Which is what Mrs Thatcher proceeded to compel public sector
housing owners to do, and hasn't quite been undone.

If you get something by renting or hiring it, are you morally entitled
to keep it?

Off on a tangent are you now?

Anyway, thank you for taking the time to consult your Explorer
Favorites folder :-)

First off, I looked this up.

Secondly, I am a Firefox user.

While searching myself, for that one, I glimpsed someone getting very
excited by the fact that the initials of "other people's money",
O.P.M., sound like "opium", but I didn't follow up to see whether they
were connecting it straight back to Marx or indeed were only kidding -
Poe's Law again...

I also reflected that "money" usually is pieces of paper with your
rulers' pictures on it, or electronic or conceptual analogues of that,
and another way of interfering with "other people's money" is to print
more and more ruler-portraits until you run out of green ink.
--
"Yeah, I remember when I had my first beer."
- Steve Martin responding to a heckler on
the album A Wild And Crazy Guy
.



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