Re: Alt Hist--NASA done right?



In article <Xns9C466F8018B7Fdershemcoxnet@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Carl Dershem <dershem@xxxxxxx> wrote:

"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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"Derek Lyons" <fairwater@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Sure, a lot of SF is set in the future, in space, implying space
exploration
advanced, but are there good Alternate History chronicling how NASA
made all
the right moves?

Well, first you have to handle the Really Hard part... Defining what
exactly constitutes 'all the right moves', and separating those that
were NASA's fault from those where the 'failure' stems from external
circumstance.

1) Kept Skylab; delayed the Shuttle (bird in the hand = two in the
bush).

Ack. No. Skylab was as much an experiment as Mercury was. Built to be
disposable. Now if thay'd learned from it and followed up properly, that
would have been better.

But that would have required keeping the Apollo technology and keeping it
updated. With Saturn V lifters, a decent space station could have been
lifted faster and better. And without a space station, permanent bases
on the moon and mars are just not workable.

And as for the Shuttle - if they'd built and designed it better, it
would have been the proper first step to space, not the overly
militarized truck with multiple breakdowns it became.


IMS, the Shuttle has a fairly high cross-range ability (which gives
it some flexibility in landing) because the Air Force wanted that.
But the Air Force ended up not using it after the Challenger was
destroyed (they also were rather laggard in getting ready to even
use it even so). So if the Shuttle is a pure NASA project (the Air
Force is told to design it's own toys), what would the design be? I
think the cargo bay capacity could still be there (because wasn't
supposed to put the pieces of a Mars Mission into orbit?), but the
wing shape will be considerably different. Would it still need
those tiles which have to be checked after ever mission (I have
heard that this is the single biggest cost item in the shuttle
program).

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Robert Woodward <robertaw@xxxxxxxxxxx>
<http://www.drizzle.com/~robertaw>
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