Re: Socialism in SF

On Apr 19, 6:33 pm, Quadibloc <jsav...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Apr 19, 2:06 pm, plausible prose man <Georgefha...@xxxxxxx> wrote:

I'm not sure who these Mud People of yours are. I'm also pretty sure
the wheel  and possibly writing, was invented by, if not exactly
Europeans, then certainly Caucasians (although I recognize that term
is not uncontroversial).

Since humans migrated all over the world on foot before they invented
the wheel, Caucasians probably did invent wheels for their own use,

Again, though, apparently that term is somewhat controversial,
although my impression is most of that comes from the Lewontin and
Gould style "but what is race?" school of everything's socially
constructed.

while people of other colors repeated that invention. We know of at
least one case, in South America.

I hope I don't sound like Mike Ash here, and if you say so I'll back
down from this, but I'd split the South America or what-would-later-be
called Latin America wheel into only sort of a wheel, and even then
not really, as while it's a rolly thing, sure, it seems to have been
pretty exclusively used on toys rather than on vehicles or even making
it easier to heave things around.

Writing was invented either in ancient Egypt or in Mesopotamia.

Or both. Who knows?

Since Jews were white, presumably the Semitic Akkadians were white.

FCVO "white," but yeah.

Their predecessors, the Sumerians, invented cuneiform writing, and the
Akkadians are not on record as saying the Sumerians looked funny.

In Egypt, we have plenty of tomb paintings showing white Egyptians
keeping black slaves from the Sudan.

We did this in another group, and it was brought up that we anglos
get a fairly distorted picture of what ancient egyptians look at, and
this was documented with lots of links, almost all of which are broken
now, to the effect there were pharoahs who looked like Eartha Kitt and
Elden Campbell, but I do not recall if those came from a time before
the sudanese invasion, so apparently while you don't totally have to
sign on with the black athena thing, there might be something there,
too.


So, while writing is not a European invention

Then again, I also notice Turkey is anxious to join the EU and is
part of NATO

, it indeed was invented
by people we would call white... but swarthy.

I have some idea at least a few of the north african and near
easterns are really quite fair skinned.

It then migrated all the
way to India, as we know the Devanagari writing system has its origins
in a writing system which had a resemblance to the ancient Phoenician
alphabet.

However, the Chinese, who aren't white, appear to have invented
writing independently.

And possibly even a considerable time before it appeared in Asia
Minor.
.

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