Re: Because someone asked a similar question in another group



In article <1212612557@xxxxxxxxx>, Wayne Throop <throopw@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I was never on the mailing list, but I read rec.arts.sf-lovers when the
list was gatewayed to it, and there were recurring discussions about
whether the gateway was a good idea or not.

There was still some sort of gatewaying going on - I think very
selective - when I first showed up in rec.arts.sf.written in, I think,
1996 (at earliest 1995). I remember people asking why they'd gotten
notices that their article had been gatewayed, and wondering why none
of mine had - and since the gateway shut down completely years ago,
this is one mark of Usenet status I will *never* win.

(Eh, I shouldn't complain too much. Last night I was looking at some
of my posts from 2002, which was apparently my final Usenet annus
mirabilis, and one was the first on-topic post to news.announce.important
in five years. I was also titular head of newsgroup creation in
the Big 8 for one week in late, um, 2005? So hey... Not that the
ultimate outcome of that week pleased me at all, but you can't have
everything. Oh, and I did also post in 2002 the guide to Tiptree's
fiction that I still haven't updated, obSFnally speaking.)

Documentation of when I
first started reading usenet is lost in the mists of time and a few
relocations, but when I started, it was still possible, just barely,
for a mortal person to read the entire feed, or at least skim it all.

I read everything that interested me at the University of Chicago's
server sometime in March or April 1985, for a week. That was enough
to get through half of net.* in alphabetical order. So I don't think
I ever made it to net.sf-lovers, but Google has a few posts of mine to
net.games.frp. (Mercifully, it does *not* have my stupid newbie post
flaming someone who'd posted a screed on net.general.)

Whether it was possible, once you were caught up, to read the entire
feed then, I wouldn't know. I don't remember being on Usenet at *all*
between then and 1995. My brother told me about the Great Renaming.

While I can't recover the dates, I can approximate a "well it was the
year aunt Sarah had the gallstones out" kind of dating: for a while I was
keeping a record of my postings on Apple II floppy diskettes. My Apple
II had a serial number in the 600s, iirc. Came with a special deal on
memory; two rows of chips plugged in instead of one, totaling a mighty
8 kbytes. Its use on usenet came a few years after that, once it'd
been expanded to an incredible 48 kbytes and had the floppy disk added.
At that time I'd been reading usenet for at least a year.

Heh. One of the few decisions I got to make in person when my siblings
cleaned my mother's house was the fate of the Apple II. (It went into
the trash, I'm afraid.) I actually got a couple of programs to work on
it, one of which I wrote myself, despite never having anything more than
a tape drive; but it was certainly never online.

(Ah, heck, long as I'm bragging: yeah, the program I wrote myself was
in BASIC, but I wrote it without a working monitor *or* drive, and it
still worked. In other words, yes, one long session of typing. May be
the only program I ever wrote that worked on the first try, or perhaps
my memory has elided the agony of debugging via printer, I couldn't say.
But you want to say *your* Apple II experiences were uphill in both
directions? The program was a simple math program, to calculate
something like sunrise and sunset times, but I'm not sure that was
exactly it.)

Joe Bernstein

--
Joe Bernstein, tax preparer, bookkeeper and writer joe@xxxxxxxxxxx
<http://www.panix.com/~josephb/>
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