Re: Dan Simmons on Larry Niven?

David T. Bilek wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:29:23 +0000 (UTC), phoenix@xxxxxxx (Damien
Sullivan) wrote:

David T. Bilek <davidbilek@xxxxxxx> wrote:


Okay, so the hippopotamus and crayon thing is, indeed, a little bit of
hyperbole. Yeah, _Mote_ is better than, say, Robert Sawyer's Hugo
winner. But that's not a hugely difficult goalpost to make it
through. It doesn't exactly try to push the boundaries of SF in any
way.

Buh? The Aldeson drive? The biology of the Moties? The million-year
history of the Moties, and how that interacted with the physics of the
Aldeson drive, stars, and the force field rules they had? Those don't
push the boundaries in any way?



Push the boundaries in a literary sense.

How about getting literature to accept decent science fiction? That ought to be pushing literary boundaries to the breaking point.


How do you feel about the "New Wave" stuff of the 70s rather than the
Niven&Pournelle kind of thing?

Most of the New Wave was not worth the paper it was printed on. A few people in there produced decent stuff, but most of it, no.

How about the "New Weird" stuff that's
being published today?

Probably haven't read any of it, so I have no opinion.




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