Re: Textbook in time

Jasper Janssen <jasper@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:16:17 -0700, archmage@xxxxxxxxxx (Nate Edel) wrote:
Danny Sichel <dsichel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
John Schilling wrote:
Note that nonsmoking sections in restaurants and aircraft were
established long before there was any consensus regarding adverse
health effects.

A restaurant with a smoking and a non-smoking section is like a swimming
pool with a diarrhea section and a non-diarrhea section.

At least absent very expensive separate ventilation systems and airlocks.

It's not quite as bad as that. Even with just moderately good, and not
particularly expensive or obtrusive ventilation, you can cause the
majority of the smoke to pretty much rise and be expelled rather than
drifting over to the nonsmoker's side.

That's enough, I'm sure, to stop the obvious smoke; it's certainly not
enough to completely eliminate any perceptable odor from it. It's probably
acceptable in the general sense - while I can smell someone smoking from a
long way away, in the absence of other smells, restaurants tend to have
other smells that block out distant and faint smells of tobacco.

OTOH, it also depends on length of exposure. For hotel rooms, I've had
allergic reactions to smoke at levels I could not smell at all initially.

FTM, a personal pet peeve of mine is people who assume that just because
they're "outside" their smoke won't come inside. Two bad cases are a
particular server at my local pizza place who always leaves the door open
behind him when he goes outside on break to smoke, and student smokers just
outside office windows at my last job.

That's just evil.

Just very lazy and inconsiderate, in the case of the students. IIRC, there
was an institutional (or possibly state?) rule about no smoking outside
within 15' of a window/entrance, but in practice that was only enforced fork
obvious outside doors... which often put the smokers under the nearest
window.

In the case of the pizza place, I'm pretty sure he was an ass who did it on
purpose. The manager would usually close the door behind him if he noticed,
and I'm not the only customer who would get up to close the door otherwise.
Why he kept the job, I don't know.

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