Re: Storm of Swords (Spoilers): AAAARRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!


Elio M. Garcia Jr. wrote:
> On 30 Sep 2005 15:03:10 -0700, willreich_77@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > He was being raised with her kids. It must have been awkward for both
> > of them and that was her fault. Or her flaw.
>
> No fault for Ned anywhere in there? Had he treated Catelyn as an equal
> partner when it came to Jon -- by telling her a simple thing like who his
> mother was, something that he sort-of/kind-of told Robert (....) -- it's
> probable that Catelyn might have done more than just tolerate Jon's
> presence.

I didn't say that no one else was at fault. I said that she was flawed.


>
> Ned left his young wife insecure, however, and simply allowed her no
> outlet for expressing her dissatisfaction with him other than by tolerating
> Jon and no more.

True enough.

> > It was more understandable
> > than that and I would BE more understanding if she were an actual
> > person. I am harsher in judging fictional characters; I will admit
> > that. I could see that Jon was loyal to Robb and fond of him and I
> > wasn't all that close to the situation.
>
> Sure. And when Robb told her that, she pointed out that even if that were
> so, there's nothing to say that Jon's sons would be. Given that the
> Blackfyres caused havok for 4 generations, even after Daemon Blackfyre's
> initial failure, there is yet more historical precedent for her concerns.

The obsession with whether your descendants get to rule others is
certainly common in societies like this. Since losing your right to
rule is often fatal or otherwise disabling, I can sympathise. However,
it is still sad and unplesant.

Will in New Haven

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