The mathematics of overspecified fictional taste - a quantitative method (was: some generic Tina Hall thread)
- From: "JavaJosh" <javajosh@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 12 Sep 2005 13:04:37 -0700
JavaJosh wrote:
> Luna wrote:
> > How can you like any stories? None of them entirely fit what you want.
> > What you want is so specific, that many thousands of well written
> > stories and books won't please you. Interesting characters, a tight,
> > well-crafted plot, smooth and unobtrusive prose, and original ideas are
> > all ruined for you if someone kisses someone somewhere in the story.
> > Since the overwhelming majority, and most likely the entirety, of books
> > and stories have something in them you don't like, you can't much like
> > reading.
>
> Excellent reasoning Luna. If I might generalize a bit: the more
> specific the story criteria, the fewer matches you will get. Here's an
> interesting question: for every new criteria I add, how do the number
> of matches change? I'm going to guess, arbitrarily, that they are
> halved. That is, for each criteria you have, it disqualifies half of
> all remaining stories. (Frankly, I believe this is a very low estimate
> for the types of criteria Tina has. A more reasonable assumption is
> that each criteria reduces the remaining pool by 90%).
>
> Let us assume that there are 10 million stories of all sorts in
> existence. (This is almost certainly way too high). The number of
> stories that match N criteria are: 10^10/2^N. Now, roughly speaking you
> have 40 criteria (I'm guessing low - I didn't count). 2^40 =
> 1,099,511,627,776 (roughly 10^13). 10^10/10^13 = 10^-3 or .001.
I did this wrong. 10 million is not 10^10 it is 10^7. The odds of
finding something that matches 40 criteria goes *down* to .000001.
> In other words, there is much less than 1 story that fits Tina's
> criteria. Indeed, even with only 20 criteria you'd be lucky to find a
> single story matching all such criteria.
That's wrong, too. The number of criteria before becoming overspecified
is now about 16.
To round out this method, adding a corralary about how many criteria a
reader can reasonably have after reading N books. For example, if
you've only read 5 books in your life, it would not make sense to have
40 criteria. Indeed, I would say that one's reading criteria should
come much more slowly, at << 1/book. To do otherwise would be akin to
a child saying that peas are "verboten" when they have never had peas.
.
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