Re: "Sleeping in Light" - Ten years ago

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:05:07 -0500, thus spake Mike Ross (in article
<ntiei414jlf6pggt44fksltkn2pimtmlov@xxxxxxx>):

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:29:09 GMT, Amy Guskin <aisling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:26:34 -0500, thus spake Mike Ross (in article
<pacei4phnsous2drd036rj4d7k293sflh2@xxxxxxx>):

<snipped to get to the point and avoid repetition>

No, it wasn't. From the relevant UK law...

"...domestic use of a recording of a broadcast solely for the purpose of
enabling it to be viewed or listened to at a more convenient time does not
infringe any right conferred by Part 2 in relation to a performance or
recording
included in the broadcast." <<

You are still missing the point. The passage, when referring to "a
broadcast," is referring to one that has legally taken place in the UK
(being
UK copyright law).

No it doesn't. Nowhere does it refer to where the broadcast took place. You
pulled that out of a hat. If the law meant 'broadcasts made in the UK' it
would
have said so. It doesn't, probably because TV signals (and especially
satellite
TV signals) from so many different European countries are available in the
UK. <<

And those people who receive those broadcasts are paying the satellite
company for those transmissions, and the broadcasters have an agreement with
the satellite company to broadcast into those territories. Making those
broadcasts _legal in the UK_. Unlike your situation.

And: I didn't pull anything out of a hat. I know more about this subject
than you do -- for example the reciprocal agreements that would protect a US
copyright in this situation.

And finally, even if your understanding of the law in this situation _were_
correct, and _you_ don't believe yourself to be an infringer, there is no
disputing the fact that the person in the US who did the taping and the
distribution (to you, in the UK) _did in fact infringe on WB's copyright_.
So it's still wrong, no matter how you care to slice it.

You may have the last word. Have a nice day.

Amy
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