Re: "Sleeping in Light" - Ten years ago

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:17:20 GMT, Amy Guskin <aisling@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:40:20 -0500, thus spake Mike Ross (in article
<mt2ei4l4b7spm8jbhuuh0v7nmkle8sd54l@xxxxxxx>):


OK I did *not* want to make this a copyright thread, but since quite a few
people are jumping in and running with it, I think I had better defend
myself.

Maybe I'm suffering from bit-rot, but does anyone else recall JMS
*encouraging*
people to get together, and have informal SiL watching parties? I'm pretty
sure
it's NOT bit-rot, this was discussed at the time:


http://groups.google.com/group/uk.media.tv.sf.babylon5.social/msg/fc5af91e69a5

a8f8?hl=en

It's a rather strange approach to copyright to claim that's it copyright
infringment for a husband to watch a show taped by his wife, with some
friends
in a private home. If that concept really makes someone feel 'quite ill'...
well
I don't know where to start really. Especially when that person has herself
admitted to watching it with a bunch of friends.<<

I think you're missing the point. You said that you had a copy sent from the
US after it aired there. Presumably, that means it wasn't yet showing in the
UK. That's why it's an infringement.

<sighs>

No, it wasn't. From the relevant UK law...

"...domestic use of a recording of a broadcast solely for the purpose of
enabling it to be viewed or listened to at a more convenient time does not
infringe any right conferred by Part 2 in relation to a performance or recording
included in the broadcast."

The fact that the recording of the broadcast was made overseas is not material.
Domestic recording, and viewing of previously-made recordings in the private
home, is legal in the UK. End of.

So long as it's not commercial (taking money at the door), public (anyone can
walk in), or incidental to commercial activity (showing it in a bar to bring in
customers), (just as a few examples), it's legal. If I'd done any of the
aforementioned things you would have grounds for an accusation, but I didn't and
you don't.

<snip>

I'm sorry that some people are so put out by my simply mentioning a fact. If
the simple recitation of the law makes someone feel 'quite ill,' I don't know
where to start really.

You haven't recited any laws. I have. All you have done is insinuate I somehow
infringed copyright. And you're not being particularly pleasant about it. I've
called you on it, as have others.

Mike, annoyed.
--
http://www.corestore.org
'As I walk along these shores
I am the history within'

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