Re: Newsgroup back!

<StarFuryG7@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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StarFur...@xxxxxxx wrote:
On Aug 16, 8:09 pm, Amy Guskin <aisl...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yeah, but you've been insisting all through this thread that you have
confirmations from Google that your message has been "submitted" to
this
newsgroup.

Excuse me--I would be happy to post the confirmation message
again, as it makes quite clear that that is in fact where it has been
submitted according to their system, yes.

On Aug 17, 8:38 pm, Matt Ion <soundy...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That means exactly nothing. "The system" may only refer to Google's
NNTP server. It may or may not mean that for a moderated group, it's
even gone to Google's SMTP server. It very likely DOES NOT mean that
it's been sent successfully to Jay's SMTP server.

Well, Gee--I guess it means absolutely nothing then, even
though Goole Groups is telling me that it's been sent tothe moderators
of this group for review. I wonder why it would do that --perhaps to
throw me off, eh? Yes, of course--now I get it --Google Groups has NO
IDEA where it's forwarding posted messages to despite what it's
informing the poster of.

I take it you've really not been reading the replies.
Folks have been sayingt hat google groups does have an idea where the
message has been sent.
It just may not be correct.
Further, it may not get an acknowlegement that the message was indeed
received by Jay's server.
When you put a letter in a postal box, you've no idea that it wa
successfully delivered until the person to who whom you've written replies.

And again, this has NOTHING to do with whether or not it's
actually been received at Jay's and/or Cheryl's end. That's another
matter entirely, but hey--by all means try to misconstrue what I've

Oh, ok, so you do realize this.
So whats the problem again?

been saying deliberately for your own nefarious purpose. It does not
however mean that I have been unclear, lacked an understanding, or
stated something that I never supposedly stated, regardless of how you
or Amy try to frame it.

Reread your first paragraph, above.

Pick a meaning:
a) You think google groups message means that the post has been sent to the
moderators for review.
b) You don't thing google groups message means that the post has been sent
to the moderators for review.

Which one is it?


I just posted a reply to this message from Google Groups... all it does
is show me a little yellow box saying "Your post was successful." That
doesn't mean anything - all it means is that the web interface has
successfully sent it to the NNTP server. Nothing else has come in to my
gmail.com inbox, no "confirmation" of any sort.

Who said anything about anything going to an Inbox? The
confirmation message appears immediately on the very next Page you end
up at after clicking Send.
And once again, the "confirmation" doesn't necessarily mean
anything other than that the post was registered with Google Groups as
having been sent along. Whether or not it actually ends up at its
intended destination is another matter entirely -- but we are talking
about a success-to-failure ratio here, meaning that the vast majority
of the messages posted end up going to their intended destination, and
that the system therefore knows where to send them.

Capisce?

<snip>

I questioned one post from last night which didn't appear --
count them: _one_, so I suggest you go back and have a look at where
this conversation actually originated if your mind needs refreshing.


So that means you've had a very high success to failure ratio then?

Dennis


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