Re: Orion CEV...Apollo Strikes Back

I have no problems with going to the moon and coming back, I do have an
issue with our primary manned space program being short jaunts to LEO
and a white elephant of a space station.

Again if we (as a nation or even as a multi-nation project) had the guts
and will to go to space wew would have manned bases on the moon by now
if not Mars.

The Orion project I mentioned in a previous post was a large scale
nuclear powered space craft that would be assembled in orbit and could
take us to the outer solar system in a matter of months not years.

In article <1157179748.150143.209020@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
jdelarroz@xxxxxxxxx says...
My bad, I just assumed that was the alternative to launches and
returns. Quick missions like that. The other statement about NASA was
from a previous post. I just figured I'd make one post instead of two,
which i guess confused things.

So what do you propose?



Craig M. Bobchin wrote:
Where are you getting that I'm promoting a long space voyage?
Yes we need to learn how to protect against radiation and
weightlessness. But protection against radiation is one thing the
shuttle and ISS don't really teach us, being inside the Earth's magetic
field which is what helps the spactation astronauts stay safe.

Also where did I state that NASA is taking a step backwards, or that
Bush is to blame?

The fact remains that Apollo was started as a political statement during
the cold war. While it was cool and all and a lot was learned, we
stumbled after that instead of moving forward.

In article <1157139114.853459.59600@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
jdelarroz@xxxxxxxxx says...
Well it seems you're promoting a prolonged space journey, which would
be great if we could find a means to keep people's bodies from breaking
down and keep them safe from radiation. I don't know much about
aerodynamics or shuttles, but I'm sure they're updating things as best
they can. I'd find it hard to believe that NASA engineers would take a
step backwards.

And I hate how everything has to be "i hate bush blahblahblahblah."
Next you know they'll be saying the weather is his fault. Oh wait..



Craig M. Bobchin wrote:
One thing you have to remember is that the shuttle is not now and never
was intended nor capable of going to the moon. The Shuttle design is
almost 40 years old and never really met it's ideal turnaround time for
missions.

Personally I believe that the whole manned space program
has been ill conceived from the beginning and needs to be rethought.

Now before anyone flames me for this, I'm a huge fan of the space pogram
and firmly beleive that we need to be in space. Just not the way we have
been for the past 25 years making LEO trips and returning. Don't even
get me started on that white elephant of a space station either.

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Relevant Pages

  • Krauthammer now, Krauthammer then
    ... Why a Moon Mission Is Worth the Money ... quite as beautiful as the space station and the shuttle that services ... You cannot justify a $17 billion NASA budget or $6 billion for manned ... space shuttle never was. ...
    (sci.space.policy)
  • Re: An alternative to Orion/Constellation?
    ... while the Shuttle carries it's destination on its own back. ... First to the moon, then maybe Venus, and eventually Mars. ... where he said he had studied how much Rockwell has reused technology inside ... the top of my head since abandonment of a system is not an incremental improvement. ...
    (sci.space.policy)
  • Re: Manned interplanetary travel is IMPOSSIBLE today, but PROBABLE soon.
    ... is a SHOW STOPPER for any manned missions beyond the moon. ... Earth lifeforms do not have the equivilent of several meters of water ... between them and the nasty radiation. ... the surface of Mars is quite radioactive. ...
    (sci.space.policy)
  • Re: Back to the Moon
    ... we can most easily goto the moon, ... Astronauts will need to avoid getting too much radiation, ... The upcoming Lunar ... "The surface of the Moon is baldly exposed to cosmic rays and solar ...
    (sci.space.policy)
  • Re: Why go back to the moon?
    ... our moon is going to remain humanly taboo until we have accomplished ... I totally agree that a little radiation is a good thing, ... I also agree that life is a risk worth taking, ... quite possibly even CNT testy. ...
    (sci.space.policy)