Re: Learning a language from STL radio signals

Eivind Kjorstad schrieb:
Erik Max Francis skreiv:

Imagine an EM blind species that uses olfactory capabilities as
primary sense, trying to decode your video into chemcial information
for various body parts.
How do they point a radio telescope at our star, then?

I don't see how body-parts enter into it either.

Because the define the way you perceive your surrounding.
As soon as you want to communicate anything beyond the purely symbolic you have to make the connection between symbol and reality.


You don't need to be a genius to figure out that I'm counting, or that
one O corresponds to five *.

This is a good way to establish you as having at least a basic understanding of math, but it won't carry you much further.
Something along a extraterrestial ELIZA or "chinese room" comes zo mind.

This result doesn't in any way depend on you -looking- at the symbols. A
blind reading it in braille, or hearing it as a sequence of beeps, or
feeling it as a series of vibrations or WHATEVER would be able to make
precisely the same conclusions.

People underestimate the universality of maths -- grossly.

Only as long as you remain close to mathematics; humanistic sciences are another topic.
Transmitting a DNA sequence or blueprints of a von Neumann machine to an alien mind? Should work fine.
But finding out how being an individual compares to being part of a (loosly knit) hive mind? This would require means of transporting the concept of emotion, quite a challenge given the logic nature of mathematics.

Robert
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