Re: Dark matter/energy - is it real?

Shawn Wilson wrote:

But they could be worked in without breaking the theories. Dark matter can't.

You mean like how the Standard Model predicts that neutrinos are massless and yet we just found out that they are because of oscillation? You mean that kind of perfect theory that can't possibly be contradicted, and therefore gravitation is the one to go?

I can see that this is going to turn into a flame fest as you have nothing to contribute.

I countered every one of your arguments. You're welcome to ignore that, but that doesn't really mean that I'm turning it into a flame fest, it means that you're not approaching the subject scientifically.

Do you have a pail of dark matter to show me?

No?

Scientists have precisely the same amount of evidence that Fermi had when he postulated the existence of neutrinos -- an apparent hole in a trusted and extremely successful theory (or principle) that is easily patched with the supposition of a new type of particle we know little about, has undetermined properties, and which has not been directly measured or detected in any way, shape, or form. Yet you do not apparently dispute the existence of neutrinos, but still dark matter is contemptible and all current theory should be scrapped rather than succumb to its temptations. Who's being scientific, again?

Then you have a theory, you do not have anything more.

Theory is all that science ever has. That you apparently don't understand that is not exactly my problem.

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