Re: The Deadilest Animal
- From: "David Loewe, Jr." <dloewe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:03:32 -0500
On Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:18:12 +0000 (UTC), "Keith F. Lynch"
William December Starr <wdstarr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The former statement is an observation, based upon my belief that
there are people who would be better off dead but refrain from
suicide because they have been indoctrinated in beliefs such as
"life is a good thing," "suicide is cowardly," "suicide is simply
wrong," etc.; a rising suicide rate suggests -- okay, "proof" was
too strong -- that more people per capita are able to overcome that
indoctrination, presumably because they're smart enough to do so.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned in this thread is how bad suicide
makes everyone who knew the person who committed suicide feel. A
coworker, an acquaintance, and my evil ex-roommate committed suicide.
I felt very bad about all of them, wondering if there was something I
could have said or done to prevent it. I can hardly begin to imagine
how much worse I'd feel if a close friend or a relative were to do it.
I think it's very rare for someone to be better off dead. It's not as
if they're missing something. They'll be dead the same amount of time
either way. It's not like going to the Worldcon, where if I wait too
long I'll miss the whole thing.
And,of course, William ignores the fact that most suicides and attempted
suicides are performed by those with mental disorders - such as
"Soldiers, when I give the command to fire, fire straight at my heart.
Wait for the order. It will be my last to you. I protest against my
condemnation. I have fought a hundred battles for France, and not
one against her ... Soldiers, Fire!"
- the Last Words of Michel Ney
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