Re: Christmas Creep

On Oct 19, 6:54 pm, "David Loewe, Jr." <dlo...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:33:48 GMT, djhe...@xxxxxxxxxxx (Dorothy J Heydt)
wrote:

David V. Loewe, Jr <davelo...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 15:13:46 -0700 (PDT), cryptoguy
<treifam...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Oct 18, 5:47 pm, "Keith F. Lynch" <k...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
David Friedman <d...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Istanbul" derives from one of two Greek phrases both meaning "in
the city" or "to the city". "It is thus based on the common Greek
usage of referring to Constantinople simply as The City (see above)."
(Wikipedia)

The question is whether "The City," in English, capitalized, ever
refers to anything except a section of London.

David Loewe used it just upthread to refer abstractly to The Urban
Center Near You,

Excuse me?

so we have an existence proof. I see the question as
being whether or not this a useful terminology. I think it is; it made
a valid point, and in context was perfectly understandable.

Would you say 'Uptown' and 'Downtown' can only be used in New York
City?

You can *always* go - Downtown...

In my experience, "downtown" means into the central shopping
district of whatever city or town you're referring to.  

IME central *business* district...

In small places such as SF or St Louis (iirc, that's where you are??),
they are usually one and the same.

In NYC, the area south of Canal Street is 'Downtown', and home of Wall
Street and financial services firms. 'Midtown' is from 59th street
(the south edge of Central Park) to roughly 14-18th street. Between
them , the bedrock dives deep, preventing skyscraper construction. The
space is occupied by less money intense areas - Greenwich Village
being the best known. Midtown includes non-financial businesses,
shopping, theatre, etc. 'Uptown' is anywhere north of 59th. This is a
about half the island, and has many varied neighbourhoods of its own.

I've never heard anyone say "uptown."  (But I don't live in New York.)

It's actually used in a lot of places, google shows.

"Uptown girl
Shes been living in her uptown world
I bet she never had a back street guy
I bet her mama never told her why"
- Billy Joel

pt
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