Re: Another Wordpad problem....
- From: "Martha Adams" <mhada@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 01:42:26 GMT
Progress, sort of. It turns out, my XP has two varieties of
"resources" for text work. One is 'Wordpad' which if I drag
a *.rtf file to it, opens the file. But if I simply click on a *.rtf
file, it opens the file in a sort of a wordprocessing program,
apparently 'Word.' Nothing like more complication to help
with a work that would be simple in Linux or unix.
Anyhow, 'Word' is something like 'Wordpad' but, of course,
different in detail. When I opened my *.rtf file in emacs,
I added '\sl480\slmult1' after ...\pard before \lang1033....
Then I looked at it thru 'Wordpad' (no change) and then in
'Word' and surprise, *very nice* doublespacing. Later I'll
see if as I suspect, I could replace \sl480 with \slxxx where
xxx is a 20-multiple within a wide range. That's for later.
So I started working on my document and the latest
complication turned up, it's a paperclip with eyes sort of a
thing, a great device for intruding into the work; and I am
now reviewing some books because somewhere, I'm
sure I've seen how to kill the miserable device so that it
never comes back. After which, I get back to the work,
keeping notes, and I hope to find my way thru Microsoft's
morass here and with my notes, next time I do something
like this I'll waste far less time.
Well, it's progress. I recall starting with Knuth's TeX,
decades ago, after some months of nroff. I think I was
in MIT's Incompatible Timesharing System then. It was
*never* this hard to do, not any of that.
-- Martha Adams [2007 Oct 4]
"Nate Edel" <archmage@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:5e1gt4xvdu.ln2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Martha Adams <mhada@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hi, when I make a renamed *.txt file and then look at it in
my local Wordpad, I don't see any tags.
Interesting; it must pick up that it's RTF, even with the file extension
changed. Emacs is preferable anyway.
But when I look at the *.rtf file thru my emacs, I find many \par tags,
and at the top of the document, these two lines:
{\rtf1\ansi\deff0{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}}
{\*\generator Msftedit
5.41.15.1507;}\viewkind4\uc1\pard\lang1033\f0\fs20
among which recognize the font I'm using but not its size;
and, I don't see something I recognize as a document
linespacing parameter. Is there a thing in here that I can
change to make my whole document doublespace?
(Changing '\uc1' to '\uc2' seemed to not change the
document appearance.)
Depending on how complex the rest of the document is, you may or may not be
able to do it this simply, but if the document structure is obliging try
this -insert "\sl480\slmult1" between \pard and \lang1033\f0\fs20, producing
something like this:
\pard\sl480\slmult1\f0\fs20
If that only makes the first part of your document doublespaced, try
searching to see if there are any other \pard tags - I'm fairly sure those
reset the paragraph formatting, in which case adding the \sl480\slmult1
right after each should do it.
The \sl480 may not work exactly for your font size. Unfortunately, I don't
know of any way to set it to a logical line spacing; from what people said
in the replies to your other thread, \sl480 is "24 pt" spacing so if you're
using larger than 12 pt (or smaller than 10 pt) type may be too tight or
loose. If so, just multiply by 20 the spacing you want in points (ie \sl520
for 26pt line spacing, or \sl400 for 20pt.)
"Nate Edel" <archmage@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:3shft4xb9s.ln2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Martha Adams <mhada@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Here is a thing that might prove helpful, if I knew what it was.
>>
>> 'slmult1'
>>
>> But I've searched on it; and I tried 'wiki 'slmult1',' and while >> it
>> seems to get a lot of use, I failed to turn up any documentation
>> on what it is or how to use it.
>>
>> I've been googling on 'Windows XP word processor' since if
>> I'm going to have to use one of those (I'm basically a TeX
>> person and in 30 years, I never learned to use a word
>> processor) then does it really have to be a Microsoft
>> product? (Probably, better not.) So I am getting hung up on
>> these dumb little things and right now, could someone tell
>> me what 'slmult1' is? ??
>
> It's basically a tag, like in HTML or LaTeX, although it doesn't > have
> similar open/close syntax.
>
> \par\slmult1 a whole buncha text adasd asdasdad
>
> is RTF for "a paragraph, apply \slmult1 to the text"
>
> To see the RTF tags, don't open the RTF file in Wordpad directly, > but
> rather
> rename the RTF to TXT, then open it in notepad or wordpad.
>
> See also the RTF spec:
> http://latex2rtf.sourceforge.net/RTF-Spec-1.0.txt
>
> Alternatively, just write the thing in LaTeX and use latex2rtf:
> http://latex2rtf.sourceforge.net/
>
> -- > Nate Edel > http://www.cubiclehermit.com/
>
> "What's the use of yearning for Elysian Fields when you know you > can't
> get
> 'em, and would only let 'em out on building leases if you had 'em?"
> (WSG)
--
Nate Edel http://www.cubiclehermit.com/
"What's the use of yearning for Elysian Fields when you know you can't get
'em, and would only let 'em out on building leases if you had 'em?" (WSG)
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