Re: Remember the Housing "Bubble"?

On Apr 9, 12:03 pm, David Friedman <d...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
In article <zPGdnTw7dqc05ofbnZ2dnUVZ_vShn...@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Dave O'Neill" <dav...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





"David Friedman" <d...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message


"What is happening" isn't a statement about what one can do but about
what one does. Which is your claim? Are you saying people can't produce
nutritious meals at a cost in time and money comparable to the cost of
what they do eat, or only that they don't? Those are not the same claim.

I've never claimed that people couldn't eat good food on low incomes,
that is what you keep saying I am saying even if it is not.

We both agree that obesity has increased over the past decade or two.
Are you arguing that over that period of time the lower income group in
the U.S. and U.K. has gotten poorer,

In what terms? At least one link referenced here suggests that this is the
case.

I think the one such link I saw claimed that a selected subset--the
not-elderly--had had a fall in income over a shorter period than that.
And it was for the U.S. Is that your claim--that the poor are getting
obese because they are getting poorer? If so, why are the rich getting
obese--even if not as often as the poor?

No, that is not what I am saying.


or that the food they used to eat
has vanished from the markets or gotten more expensive relative to their
income? How about the higher income groups, for which obesity is also
increasing?

Food hasn't vanished, food has got cheaper, but the food that has got a lot
cheaper is the stuff people probably shouldn't be eating. Fast, convenient,
antibiotic injectied, fat supplemented, salty foods are cheaper and easier
than the real thing.

But has most of the food you think poor people should be eating gotten
substantially more expensive or less available?

In real terms, its probably about the same price or more. The cost of
junk food has dropped enormously in my life time alone.

And do you think that
antibiotic injection makes food less nutritious?

Not necessarily, although there are reasons why it leads to nutrition
problems. The antibiotics and hormones create other problems which go
beyond obesity.

Dave

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