Re: Determining age, for age of consent

On 17 jaan, 07:08, Ric Locke <warlo...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 16 Jan 2008 19:30:09 GMT, Dan Goodman wrote:



Ric Locke wrote:

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 22:49:12 -0900, Bill Swears wrote:

Ric Locke wrote:
The environment wasn't supposed to be earthly at all, so using US
legal >>> models seems pointless. I think you could safely assume we
were talking >>> about bad guy, and extra-legal behavior - the sort
of thing that >>> good-guys would sweep in to stop as soon as they
found out, or the sort >>> of horrible dystopia that heroes sometimes
find themselves trapped in.

Bill

Business as usual on Jackson's Whole, IOW.

Regards,
Ric

I was thinking of something darker, but yes, that was the trend of
my thought. there was a disturbing set of books I read several
years ago, Helliconia Winter really bothered me. the human
research station, as it fell into high tech barbarism, started
making partial humans with specific functions. Still makes me
shiver.

Bill

Not really all that new, of course. Vance's "end times" stories (The
Last Castle, The Dying Earth) have that as a main feature, and that's
what Capek's robots were.

Are you sure about Capek's robots? I remember them as being completely
human.

Some sort of intervention in development is implicit, otherwise Rossum
would simply have been a slave dealer. That's not the way the story
works.

Explicit, not implicit. And the matter of slavery was treated at
length. A major character was examining the robots because of moral
objections to slavery.

Rossum Sr. (uncle) had aimed at reproducing humans completely. He did
not succeed: his products promptly died. Rossum Jr. (nephew) took
another goal: omit everything superfluous. He succeeded.

The robots did not have privy parts: those were unnecessary because
robots were assembled, not born. However, the robots DID have male and
female looks - in order to look better in male and female jobs (like a
secretary). Male and female robots had no interest in each other.

The investigator received a convincing proof that the robots were not
human and did not have the capacity to need or want freedom.

Over time, robots were somewhat tweaked. For example, they acquired
the ability to feel pain. This had been omitted at first; but they
tended to suffer too many injuries without the sense of pain.
.

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