Re: [CRIT] Opening



R.L. wrote:

On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 18:37:08 GMT, Dorothy J Heydt wrote:

There's a lovely bit in one of de Camp's Viagens series in which
there's a society that wants to prove that George Bernard Shaw
can't possibly have written the works attributed to him.

I guess that was later than whoever proved that Max Muller was a solar
myth.

Their candidate for the "real" Shaw? Winston Churchill.

Who, in fact, did write some fiction, in particular the neat AH
"If Lee Had Lost at Gettysburg."

How did the Alternate WC's timeline compare with Bruce Catton's?

From http://uchronia.net:

Churchill, Winston S. "If Lee had not Won the Battle of Gettysburg".
Divergence: 1863 CE
What if: Jeb Stuart reached the battlefield in time to support
Pickett's charge. Later, Lee unilaterally freed the slaves and Britain
recognized the CSA.
Summary: Musings on how a Confederate defeat at Gettysburg might have
prevented the formation of the English-speaking union. Thus, the story
could be said to be recursive alternative history.
Comments: A discussion of the credibility of the divergence is found in
Hook's The Hero in History, q.v.

Published: In If It Had Happened Otherwise: Lapses Into Imaginary
History, all eds. (ed. J.C. Squire), q.v.; The Collected Essays of Sir
Winston Churchill, Vol. IV: Churchill at Large, Library of Imperial
History, 1976; What Might Have Been? Volume 3: Alternate Wars (eds.
Gregory Benford and Martin H. Greenberg), q.v.; and The Great Republic:
A History of America, Random House 1999 (037550320X, 0375408568), Moden
Library 2000 (0375754407).
Original in: English.
Translation: German by Walter Brumm as "Wenn Lee die Schlacht von
Gettysburg nicht gewonnen hatte", in Heyne Science Fiction Magazin #9;
and Wenn Napoleon bei Waterloo gewonnen hatte. Und andere abwegige
Geschichten (ed. J.C. Squire), Heyne 1999 (3453149114).
Translation: Italian by M. Cristina Pietri as "Se Lee non avesse vinto
la battaglia di Gettysburg", in I mondi del possibile (ed. Piergiorgio
Nicolazzini), q.v.


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