Re: Talking about horses...

On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 02:45:22 -0500, Cyli <cylise@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 28 Apr 2007 23:41:45 +0100, Jacey Bedford
<lookinsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In message <gsd533hrllp5lv2gnuo27guvduepc3cln6@xxxxxxx>, Cyli
<cylise@xxxxxxxxx> writes
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:21:39 +0100, Jacey Bedford
<lookinsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
A standing martingale goes from girth, through neck band to the
underside of the bridle and stops a horse from throwing its head up too
high.

Jacey

Thank you. I hadn't realized all the complexities of the Martingale
(and couldn't even remember the name when talking about a breast
band).

Ah - a breast band is something different again. The neck strap on a
martingale goes round the horse's neck. A breast band - as I think you
mean, goes from the saddle round the front of a horse. I think that's a
Western tack thing - or maybe something you might have on a military
saddle. certainly not on an English saddle. My understanding is that it
stops the saddle from sliding backwards, just as a crupper (a strap from
the back of the saddle with a leather loop around the horse's tail) is
supposed to stop it from sliding forwards. For regular work, with a
horse of regular conformation, neither should be necessary. I only ever
remember seeing cruppers used on very rotund children's ponies,
sometimes when they were wearing felt saddle pads instead of real
saddles (and as part of a driving harness).


So when Tina mentioned a breast band, she might actually have _meant_
a breast band and not the martingale that I was envisioning? Which I
was seeing as being from the saddle around the horse's chest, with a
strap up to the bit part of the bridle. I hadn't even realized they
were two different things.

Yes. A martingale *can* been hooked up to a breast collar, but
doesn't have to be.

I've only seen stuff on horse's chests in parades and occasional
movies. Never in real life riding. And I assumed it was mostly for
show, except for the stuff that kept horses from tossing their heads
back. A childhood friend of mine wound up with a brain injury from
her horse doing that. The tab / pin part of the buckle (the sharpish
thing you put through the hole and then, supposedly, put down)went
right through her skull, so my mother told me. That was after it,
literally, closelined her one day, by running through someone's yard.
I doubt she kept the horse. All it had ever done to me was step on my
foot. But almost all horses did that. Usually when I was standing on
sand or soft ground, luckily. And almost every time, I'd look at the
horse, the horse would look at me and I'd be sure it had done it on
purpose. Especially if I couldn't get him off it. Does help one
learn where and how to move a horse from the front and side with just
human power. Except when it doesn't work.

Novices generally end up learning to keep their feet out of the way of
a horse's foot. Horse vision ain't that great in that area.

jrw
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