Re: Men's Hour Books
- From: Crowfoot <pagemail@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:56:00 -0600
In article <J54wqH.AIE@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
djheydt@xxxxxxxxxxx (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
In article <pagemail-217110.13095305092006@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Crowfoot <pagemail@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
If women sometimes choose to go around in high heels and
skirts that have an effect similar to leg shackles that
is an erotic choice, and not something society has
imposed on them. Women wear semi bondage clothing to
feel sexy to themselves, not to comply with
expectations, nor to please men.
Supporting material, please?
Um, yes, and I'd like to know why he thinks women "want to feel
sexy to themselves." Those things women do to improve their
*self* image usually involve looking fashionable, or rich, or
thin. Women's clothing choices are, I believe, much more often
made to excite envy in other women than desire in men (who, after
all, would be well-pleased if the women went around stark naked).
Dorothy J. Heydt
Albany, California
djheydt@xxxxxxxxxxx
Too true; and I think this is often true of men as well,
since much of what they do/say/wear seems to be more
about impressing other *men* than impressing women,
which makes sense if you think of the competition among
men for all the good things (money, prestige, women) as
central to their psyches, particularly here in "free enterprise"
America where if you fail to gain access to a good chunk of
the goodies, that must mean you're lame or a quitter.
Likewise women seem to need to impress/outclass other
women in order to establish their own position as higher in
the female social hierarchy. It's from that position that a
person, male or female, establishes their claim on access
to mates of equivalent (or slightly higher) status, so it does
circle back to sex, of course. But the process is a often a
lot less direct than is obvious, registering *first* as a claim
on a certain status within one's own gender group.
SMC
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