Re: Question about "the Gros Venure" as mentioned by Aubrey



zeborah@xxxxxxxxx (Zeborah) wrote on 03.01.06 in <1h8ly0v.dmw3wp141ocnuN%zeborah@xxxxxxxxx>:

> I don't think that's predestination.

> v. 10-15 are perfectly reconcilable with omniscience and foreknowledge;

Just a short note that there's a link between predestination and
foreknowledge; as in, if your actions aren't predetermined, how can anyone
know what they will be? And if they do know, how can those actions not be
predetermined? Ignoring for the moment the question who, if anyone, is
responsible for the predetermination.

And of course the free will question is also strongly related; except I
still don't have a useful definition for free will which I could use to
generate an opinion on if we have it, for example. Or differently put, I
can see definitions where I'd say "yes, we have it", and others where I'd
say "no such thing" ...

Kai
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