Re: Continental vs British toilets

Kai Henningsen schrieb:
>
> warlocke@xxxxxxxxxxxx (Ric Locke) wrote on 25.09.05 in <17jma69h2si4l$.binyyvw77d35$.dlg@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> > On Sun, 25 Sep 2005 01:59:07 GMT, Mark Atwood wrote:
> >
> > > kaih=9eVuhKFmw-B@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Kai Henningsen) writes:
> > >>
> > >>> (It's a vent in the floor connected to the heating system. Hot air
> > >>> comes out of it when the furnace is running.)
> > >>
> > >> Quaint.
> > >
> > > Forced air systems are not "quaint".
> > >
> > > Forced air furnaces are efficient systems for turning oil or natural
> > > gas into heat, and have the advantage that it's relatively easy to
> > > swap in and out various heat source technologies, and to add in air
> > > scrubbers and air conditioners.
> > >
> > > If you live someplace where electric is actually an intrinsically
> > > cheaper way to heat your home, without gov't subsidy somewhere in the
> > > chain, I will be very surprised.
> >
> > IIRC Kai is the one whose house is heated by waste heat from a nearby power
> > plant, delivered as hot water through a separate set of pipes. If so
> > there's a subsidy involved in that case (in that it's part of the city
> > utility system),

Most of the municipal electricity/heating works have been privatised.
In Berlin, they're now owned by Vattenfall Europe.

> Run that "subsidy" part by me again, slowly. AFAIK, any energy except for
> aviation fuel carries *negative* subsidy (that is, tax) over here.

2,05 ?-cent per kWh for private users.

>(Oh,
> and I'm not sure said plant produces any power *except* heat. AFAIK,
> again, there's no local non-private electricity production. Anyway, I've
> always heard it referred to as "Heizwerk" (heating plant).)

Interesting. In Berlin, the words are 'Heizkraftwerk' and
'KWK=Kraft-Wärme-Kopplung'. In short, many/most plants produce both
electricity and heat.

Currently, they're trying to sell central heating to my elder full
sister, who's currently heating and cooking with gas. The
electricity/heating company claims they get 60% efficiency for
electricity _and_ an extra 60% efficiency for heat. I would have
expected a bit more publicity for their invention of the perpetuum
mobile.

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haar laatste woord is altijd boe.
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