Re: (OT)Neandertal mtDNA/ mull that over

Sherrie Lee wrote:

Dennis M. Hammes wrote:

Sherrie Lee wrote:


These might be silly qualia questions, but what if you wanted
to know what it felt like to experience "in your mind"
what a fly sees? It could be argued that you couldn't
because you'd have your own experiences that a
fly hasn't experienced mixed in with any fly experience
that could ever be passed into your mind. You'd not
truly know a fly's experience. This is the kind of thing
that keeps philosophy teachers employed.


Only because the student is /completely/ ignorant.
If your own observation system is any good, you can accurately
subtract your own experience from any theoretical or actual contrived
observation. It's called "correcting for the instrument," among
other things.
What you could /not/ do, even with a degree in philosophy, is
demonstrate that you had contrived in any part what the fly actually saw.
And in short, you could remove all the interferences from your own
system, but you'd be left with a blank datum.


A solid separates you and me,
and in order for you to "see" me,
a mirror is used, but you do not see
me. You see the container, the mirror,
and what is quantifiable to the mirror.

You and I, in mirrors separated
by space and time (solid), are quantified
to the context of each of our "conditions".

We are open forms in the same container
that is the form of that which holds it.

("Beauty is in the eye of the beholder")


A flimsy solid separates you and me;
The tit takes the form of that which holds it.
That beauty is only in the aye of the holder.

The living bra takes the form of that it holds,
Then sees how many forms it has,
Which are many manys.

In any sufficiently small space,
The laws of universe are identical, or
B-cups are beautiful anywhere in the universe,
Especially when they are in the eye
Of the B-holder.


Is it possible that human/animals have existed since
the ancients reported on them long ago in their stories
and paintings? Maybe we're caught in a matrical loop,
and the god running the show was/is one of these chimera.


Actually, I finally stuck my head out my window this afternoon, and
discovered that I've been encased in amber for 30 million years.


That solid that encases you is a liquid, but liquid is
distinguished from solid. They're called "states". Yours is MN.


It still doesn't answer questions dealing with beginnings.
We still start with an arbitrary "date" and call it the beginning.

But now we have DNA. We're getting closer to a beginning
that hasn't been tainted artificially by a man's written record.
But are we? Are we finding a physical record of "nature"?
Maybe we've found enough to get us to where we are now,
enough to get us to where we are going, enough to show
where we've been. Up to a point.


Recombinant DNA proves that raptors sat on lily pads and stuck their
tongues out at flies.
(Today, we call them "baseball fans.")


Lily pads are fields.


....from which there rise up the Lilies of the Field,
Which do not labor at PO-wetry,
But which are beautiful in a small space.


What is driving all this? The idea of free-will has been brought
into question. Dennis has said the baby comes into this world,
into a crib not of its own choosing. When is the beginning of
free-will?


Some people shun it successfully all their lives.
Free will is choice, is reflexive as a proper subset of its own
universe, and can thus choose to deny itself. It can even choose to
encase itself completely in Predestination, Kharma, even Amber.
It doesn't always work.
I tried to encase myself in Amber last week, and she slapped me.


That's because when she saw what you were up to, you fainted.


No, I feinted.
When she saw what I was up to, she fainted.


Science has made it possible for a paralysed person to move
electronic objects by just thinking about moving them. The code
is being translated. But what is the beginning? Is it at the thought
to "move left"? Or is it at the thought to "think", Move left?


Or is it at the thought of having the thought to "think," <move left>?
"I think, therefore I move left."
Or why philosophers keep running around in circles.


The construction above has "move left" on the ground.
If <move left> is taken out of <> and thrown, it would
be a curve ball. You could catch it, but if you threw
a fast ball straight toward < to >, you'd hit a wall.
You'd have to throw it from < to ^ to make it to >.
It's always a curve but not a circle, inspite of its
arrival at the starting point, zero. The ground moves.


Only in California, whose balls seem to have trouble with curves of /all/ kinds, no matter who's on first.
One has the same trouble with boomerangs, which have been banned in all Red States as they curve to the left in the Northern hemisphere.

(That's merely spurious; /all/ right-handed boomerangs curve to the left.)


Are we getting closer to imitating phase shift?


I wouldn't worry about it; it's just a phase.


You're right. As soon as it's explained, it's gone.


Then why is Tommy still here?

....

When you did what you did with it you were in motion.
Describing what you did with it stops the motion of when
you did it. It's only a phase you describe. At least it wasn't
a diet called, "The Zone".


Actually it was four Dew cans lined up -- "Dew, Dew, Dew, Dew" -- outside my bathroom.
Picture that.
You are about to enter -- "The Toilet Zone."


Would it be right to end studies on the brain that might
eventually help a paralysed person walk again?


I have the right to end any study of mine for any reason.
Nobody has the right to /forbid/ any study paid for in the first
person singular (or even hired out voluntarily).
Which did you mean?


Some people might think fixing a paralysed person
is like cooking meth.


Some people think that fixing dogs is better than cooking them.
"Whatcha doin', Ying?"
"Just wokkin' the dog..."

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