Re: OT: A Rare Voice of Sanity

On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:39:00 -0400, "Francis A. Miniter"
<faminiter@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

John Oliver wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 09:41:12 -0400, "Francis A. Miniter"
<faminiter@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Your argument leaves no room for "promoting the general
welfare". Property rights trump every other principle in
the Constitution. All bow down before property rights; they
even crush human rights.

Francis A. Miniter

Property is owned by human beings. Those humans have rights. Property
rights are human rights.
--
John Oliver
jdoliver@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
AIM or MSN jdoliver98

Property rights are one kind of rights. The class of rights
we commonly call "human rights" are more personal, and
because they are more personal, they are generally regarded
as being more important.

For instance, if you had to suffer the (a) unjust loss of
your automobile; or (b) unjust loss of your health, which
would be more important?


Francis A. Miniter

I use my car to get food, to go to my Doctor and to go to the
drugstore to get insulin and other medicines essential to my health.

The distinction you make is very artificial.

Have you ever heard of the Ukrainian famine of the 1930s? It was
caused by the Communists under Stalin seizing so many crops from the
peasant farmers that the farmers didn't have enough left to feed
themselves until the next crop.

Or how about the Red Guards under Mao breaking into homes and
destroying Ming dynasty vases.

Or Pol Pot driving people out of their homes?

I would suggest that the history of Communism demonstrates that
ignoring property rights is strongly connected to ignoring human
rights.
--
John Oliver
jdoliver@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
AIM or MSN jdoliver98
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