Re: OT: some may want to keep a copy for refreence



On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:50:57 +1100, Mike Burke <mburke@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Context is everything, Howard. You've pubished the chapters but you
published no notes or bibliography to enable us to check any of the
alleged quotes and to put them in their proper context. Until I see
them, I will not just take them as read.

I would like to see some evidence for the claim that '...(S)everal of
these organizations like CFR and TC were financed by Rockefellers'.
Sez who?

Do a little Google search on the subject. You'll find plenty of
evidence. Also, allow me to give you two of David Rockefeller's
statements (quoted in a previous thread):

"It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the
world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those
years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march
towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an
intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the
national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."
-- David Rockefeller, Speaking at the June 1991 Bilderberger meeting
in Baden Baden, Germany
http://freedomlaw.com/coffee.html

"For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the
political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as
my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the
inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and
economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal
working against the best interests of the United States,
characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of
conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated
global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If
that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
-- From Rockefeller's "Memoirs", (p.405).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Rockefeller

There is nothing undeclared about the war in the Middle East. And, in
any case, formal declarations of war in the WWI and II sense are
anachronisms. They will never occur again.

This is not in accordance with the law of the land, the Constitution
of the United States of America. The executive branch of our
government is not permitted to declare war without the consent of
Congress.

There are many rational explanations for the situations that you infer
to be the result criminal conspiracies. Most people can accept them
as simply the facts of modern commercial life, driven more by modern
technology and the speed of modern communications than by anything
else.

They are planned and carried out by groups such as CFR and TC. They
could be prevented by government if it were run on behalf of the
people it is supposed to represent. Instead, they are supported by
government which acts on behalf of big business.

When investment funds are awash with money from things such as
retirement (superannuation) schemes, the people managing those funds
do not tolerate underperforming investments. So, if Daddy Warbucks
and General Bullmoose do not deliver their forecast profits or better,
those fund managers (and not people like Rockefeller et al) will - in
the blink of an eye, and at the speed of light - transfer billions to
investments elsewhere. It's that simple, and the only way the big US
companies can generate the profits necessary to retain the investment
capital is to cut operating costs. Thus, the US (and Australian) jobs
go to India, the Phillipines, Malaysia and so on, because labour costs
in those places are much, much cheaper.

It's cynical, it's crude capitalism at its worst and it's quite
possibly most of the nasty things you like to think it is. But what
it emphatically is not is a conspiracy by a secret cabal.

And that is why people like I think that you're a bonehead.

Mique
.



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