Re: Cantar for me

Gracias Diego y Javier, abrazo desde Montevideo.

Last years for features we use iso tracks, not for comercials, or low
cost TV series.

In documentary jobs sometimes i use more than 2 tracks, but is not
usual.

Recently in a doc we shoot on the football stadium, in an Uruguay-
Brasil match, it was an interview of 2 old Uruguayan players ( world
cup winners ) on the camp, half an hour before the match begins. Full
of people, songs, etc, imagine. So two lavs, and an MS ambient setup.
After the interview we shoot crowd, i was waiting for an Uruguayan
Goal, because i don't have this sound in my library, but not only we
loose the match, but we convert cero goal !

I like full recorders, or very little ones, i've an Aeta Audio Mixy
with an SD recorder for really light video setup.
By the way the Mixy has very high quality preamps, with lots of gain.

In features we work with a boom op and no cable guy, so if you need 2
booms, the sound mixer needs to boom one, if you have 2 wireless, you
cannot mix, and you need 4 iso tracks...

Regarding the CFcards, you are using it as a bkup at the end of the
day? Thanks for the info.

Abrazo!

Fabian










On Aug 5, 6:01 am, ¤R¼..-¦°€•*¤¦*b€rt°• <~¤..-¦-•¦-y¤€-•~¤¤¦*@le•
€s.com> wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:29:35 -0700 (PDT), fabian oliver
<oliverso...@xxxxxxxxx> schreef:

My colleagues think i;m a kind of mad, because :"you don't need always
to record 6+2 tracks, with a 4 tracks machine you can solve 60% of
your job ( comercials, docs, or for the 1 or 2 features you can have a
less expensive one)....

May be it's true.

Well, let's face it, you can also record 1 or 2 tracks, if you mix it
down properly.
Problem with most modern tv drama, commercial or feature, or for
example one man band setups, is that you at least have between 1 and 3
talents average, at least in my experience. Some here even need 10 or
more tracks, so that is a subjective pov, or a YMMV.
On the Cantar mailing list ( did you join that one already ? ) you
see that many also have 2 Cantars, if they need to run more than 8,
even with combined /linked Cantarems.
I never did run out of tracks, not even with a feature that had 6 or 7
kids & 2 adults at most, 4 cam setup, all wired, on boats, running
through Venice Italy, and Studio setups.
In the Studio i used a O1V96, and there i had 2 times the situation
where i needed to put 2 tx on 1 Iso, and that was simple. One fade and
done.

But on the minimum side, depending on your setup, if you work in the
Boom on 1, tx mix on 2, iso's on sep tracks, you need at least 5
tracks with 3 tx, and 6 if you use some other placed mic or something.
But that's only relevant if someone, somewhere in the post process is
actually using your Iso's, and that's not a general, Worldwide
phenomenon yet.
Not to mention XY or MS configurations.
But, i also know enough people who use a 744 or even a 722 TC only.
And if it works, it works :)

by the way, i see that people already answer in your own language.
Good, since sometimes it's much more easy to discuss these technical
things in your own language, imo.

Also, about the CF writer on the FW I/O, these Sandisc 16 GB 30 Mbs
extreme 3 cards are the way to go over here. Donlt get lower Mbs one's
if you can.
I use this onehttp://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDDRX4-CFR-Sandisk-Extreme-FireWire/dp/...

With this onehttp://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-16GB-Extreme-III-SDCFX3-016G-P31/dp/B00...

and the SSD is almost in :)

R









On Aug 5, 6:01 am, ¤R¼..-¦°€•*¤¦*b€rt°• <~¤..-¦-•¦-y¤€-•~¤¤¦*@le•
€s.com> wrote:
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:29:35 -0700 (PDT), fabian oliver
<oliverso...@xxxxxxxxx> schreef:

My colleagues think i;m a kind of mad, because :"you don't need always
to record 6+2 tracks, with a 4 tracks machine you can solve 60% of
your job ( comercials, docs, or for the 1 or 2 features you can have a
less expensive one)....

May be it's true.

Well, let's face it, you can also record 1 or 2 tracks, if you mix it
down properly.
Problem with most modern tv drama, commercial or feature, or for
example one man band setups, is that you at least have between 1 and 3
talents average, at least in my experience. Some here even need 10 or
more tracks, so that is a subjective pov, or a YMMV.
 On the Cantar mailing list ( did you join that one already ? ) you
see that many also have  2 Cantars, if they need to run more than 8,
even with combined /linked Cantarems.
I never did run out of tracks, not even with a feature that had 6 or 7
kids & 2 adults at most,  4 cam setup, all wired, on boats, running
through Venice Italy, and Studio setups.
In the Studio i used a O1V96, and there i had 2 times the situation
where i needed to put 2 tx on 1 Iso, and that was simple. One fade and
done.

But on the minimum side, depending on your setup, if you work in the
Boom on 1, tx mix on 2, iso's on sep tracks, you need at least 5
tracks with 3 tx, and 6 if you use some other placed mic or something.
But that's only relevant if someone, somewhere in the post process is
actually using your Iso's, and that's not a general, Worldwide
phenomenon yet.
Not to mention XY or MS configurations.
But, i also know enough people who use a 744 or even a 722 TC only.
And if it works, it works :)

by the way, i see that people already answer in your own language.
Good, since sometimes it's much more easy to discuss these technical
things in your own language, imo.

Also, about the CF writer on the FW I/O, these Sandisc 16 GB 30 Mbs
extreme 3 cards are the way to go over here. Donlt get lower Mbs one's
if you can.
I use this onehttp://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-SDDRX4-CFR-Sandisk-Extreme-FireWire/dp/...

With this onehttp://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-16GB-Extreme-III-SDCFX3-016G-P31/dp/B00...

and the SSD is almost in :)

R

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