Re: Standard Kit Rental Prices

Charlie,

I see your point, there is an effort among some of us to get our rates
up and it has not been easy. I charge $450 for 10 hours and provide a
302, boom with 416 and 2 radio mics. I always bring extra stuff like
an RE50 with Tx, Comtex, recorder, loads of cables and adaptors, and I
charge for them when I use them (stick mic is included as one of the
wireless.) I can say that since I have been insisting on min $450, I
have worked less. (exception for a crewing company who I am friends
with gets me for $350, and the jobs are easy usually). I dont know if
it is slower, or if I priced myself out of work, but I have other
things to do. I charge $450 to $500 for live audio gigs, which I
don't use any of my equipment, so you could say I am giving away my
kit for free and they will feel like they are getting a great deal.




On Dec 5, 11:25 am, "Charles Tomaras" <toma...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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When a client wants to pay for the basic kit rental separately, the
usual going rate is $100 / day here in the Dallas area. I try to avoid
this because if they want to separate the kit fee it is because they
want to only pay overtime based on your rate minus the kit rental.
Also, sometimes I get asked to work with their gear for less money.  I
tell them that my rate is with or without gear. The last thing I want
to do is work with unfamiliar gear for less money. These issues are
usually only with reality productions that they know will be a 16 hour
beatdown.

Ron Stanley
32 Degree Audio

I stay away from that all in one pricing scheme. I think it's one of the big
problems in our freelancer side of the industry for getting a fair rate. Far
too many producers think of sound as ONE number and everyone else as two. DP
is separate from camera rental, gaffer is separate from grip truck rental
etc. When they think of us as ONE number they compare our combined rate with
the other crew's individual rates and get the impression that we are
overpaid. I had someone once tell me "we don't even pay the camera person
that much money." I also find that keeping my labor and equipment as
separate lines gives me a clear path for making adjustments and showing
discounts if needed on an invoice. My rate and standard gear charges always
remain the same price and I discount and show it as a discount on my
invoice. Much cleaner, and the client always knows that you gave them a deal
if in the future you work for full equipment rate etc. When they say you
"did it for $100 last time" you can say that it was a 50% discount and you
have the invoice to back it up.

If you don't want to use someone else's gear, don't take the job or tell
them no. Pretty simple and it's better than jamming something down their
throat they don't want. I also cannot morally charge a client overtime on my
gear package so I have no problem with that aspect of working for a wage. If
you want more for your labor, charge more for your labor but don't try to
make it seem like your gear is part of your price...I think it only leads to
misunderstandings down the road.

Charlie - Seattle.

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