Re: Labeling software for Mac

You must be doing features Andy<g>. I barely have a chance to pee before we
are shooting (again), let alone punch all the day's work into a recorder. I
decided a long time ago that I was not going to be the sound secretary as
well as the mixer, and in TV, I guess that it works well enough.

No offence and none taken but I do know how to get the Scene and Take
numbers into the 744T and how to deal with false starts. I used one as a
backup for almost 200 shooting days in 2007 (2008 has been a different
story<g>.). But I am NOT going to take DVD-RAM carts apart for the
convenience of post (who lost two whole disks of fully labeled sound three
months after dailies last season "We don't know where they went." Thank God
I had backups on a HDD eh?) and I don't stay after wrap and burn disks
'cause the producers don't want to pay for the extra OT.

So if I decide to put Scene and Take numbers on the 744T, they will get some
but certainly not all of them. Other more important things to do (pee) you
see. Oh well, old and curmudgeonly.

D.


On 6/28/08 4:55 PM, in article
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"soundoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <soundoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Jun 28, 12:46 pm, Douglas Tourtelot <dtourte...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Andy-

I don't have any need to apply labels directly to the DVD disk.  I use
cartridged DVD-RAMs in my DV824s and only need to apply the label to the
cartridge.  If post needs to take them out (and they shouldn't using their
DV40s for transfer), it would be up to them to identify the disks and which
cartridges they came out of.

Regular Avery inkjet labels work well for me; a 2"x4" for the delivery box
which wraps around to show the SR# on the thin edge, and a 1"x3" (or so)
that goes on the cartridge.  BTW, I put the name of the project, the
"season" followed by a ever-incrementing number (SR# 2-13 = season 2's 13th
disk). The sample rate and bit depth, and the time code frame rate.  My name
and my phone contact number also go on the delivery box label.

Realize that I am dealing with the same guys in transfer every day so things
like the production company's name, specific equipment, and other items that
go on a, let's say, commercial roll, aren't necessary but might be for
others.

BTW, I use a Sharpie to scribble some info on the daily back-up DVD-RAM raw
disk from the 744T burner, which is supposedly a no-no.  Post has needed it
a few times and there has never been any readability issues.  I have had
problems letting the 744T increment take numbers (instead of putting in the
Scene and Take numbers as I do on the DV824) even though these numbers are
cross-referenced on the sound logs.  Seems pretty straight ahead to me but
post has had trouble locating the matching tracks on the back-up.  It is up
for discussion this season, but I sure wish that that info was part of the
meta data that could travel between the two recorders.  I am still running
my 744T as an analog input, completely separate from the digital input to
the DV824 so that a digital error on the DV824 will not take out the
back-up.  Maybe too anal.

D.

On 6/28/08 8:44 AM, in article
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"sound...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <sound...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jun 27, 3:14 pm, Douglas Tourtelot <dtourte...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
True, I don't put labels on the DVD because I never touch the DVDs.  Only
the cartridges that holds them.  I hope that you have a method of marking
your deliverables or post will get so very confused<g>.

D.

On 6/27/08 1:25 PM, in article s1c9k.19941$co7.3...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,

"Kill Bill" <killb...@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Douglas Tourtelot wrote:
I was using Avery Label Pro in my XP machine.  The Mac version sucks;
specifically no ability to serial number DVD delivery boxes with the
"Sound
Roll" number.

What are others using to print labels for their delivery boxes, and
DVD-RAM
cassettes?

D.

Don't put ANY labels on DVDs..  DVDs spin at high speeds, and the
smallest imperfection in the label, and the DVD WILL FAIL!

Plus, when you add in a label on a DVD, it can run the risk of getting
caught in the DVD mechanisms.. For example those slot loaders on Mac
book pros.

-bill

Doug;

 Avery 8962 is a fairly  safe label to use; it's made of a film, not
paper, so it doesn't expand with moisture, etc.
It is important to put the label on carefully, which means absolutely
flat  and flush, with neither bubbles nor protruding edges. I use an
Avery applicator that centers and flattens the labels well. Avery
includes instructions for using the jewel case to apply the labels,
but it takes some practice, which can mean wasted discs & labels.

I use Discus, which used to come bundled with Toast, to print Mac
labels; it's easy to use & customize.

This is for dvd-RAM discs for my 744 dailies.
For Boom Recorder discs I buy dvd-r's that can be printed on directly,
and I pre-print them in an Epson R260 printer, which has a disc -
printing mode.
Andy Rovins

Doug;
I don't have any problem w/ take #s on the 744 dvds; I have it set up
so that they re-set every time I change the scene name. I you have a
false start, then stop it, and then hit the stop and rewind buttons
simultaneously, which brings up a dialogue box that asks you if you
want to declare the last take a FS and delete it, If you say yes it
reverts tot he proper take number.

I don't use an 824 or any other cartridge-style burner now. You do
Know that they leave the cartridge in when they get to telecine?
OIt's still a good idea to ahve the discs lableled.

There are supposedly special sharpies made with safe ink. I've never
had a problem with the regular ones.
I also, at the beginning of the day, look at the call *** and load
all of the scene numbers into the menu of numbers so that I can bring
them up when needed. Then I just needs to add a, b, c, suffixes. et.
al,as needed under
the edit part of menu #7.
Once in a while , of course, I won't get a change until we're rolling.
The I have to make a note and make sure the Script super gets it.

In Boom Recorder I can go back and correct scene names afterwards.

One problem i did discover, in case anybody gets tempted to try it:

I was rolling in a 2-track mode on the 744 (that's all they wanted,
and all they were paying for) and rolling Boom Recorder for my own
sake in 8 tracks. On one take I went for all boom and didn't use the
radios, which were iso'ed on on Boom Recorder. Afterwards I wished I
had used the radio, & I wasn't isoing them on the 744.I thought, Well,
they're all bwav files, so I copied the 1 BR take onto a CF card an
copied it to the SD external burner between setups.
Post called me the next day and said they couldn't read the disc, so I
burned a new one, which was fine. This is the only time it's happened
with the 744 & SD Burner, so I think that by adding the extra file I
probably messed up the directory. If a similar situation comes up I'll
just burn an extra disc for that file.
AR

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