Re: EQ's on the cart?

The main argument (in my opinion) for on-the-set EQ was missed here
entirely (unless I overlooked it):

In a scenario where 5 actors with overlapping dialog are recorded with
multiple mics onto a mixed track, and one or more of the mics needs EQ
to sound like the others (hopefully more natural), if you don't EQ it
on the set then it's difficult if not impossible to someone else to EQ
it in the mix. Further, because these scenes commonly use wireless lav
mics, and hidden lavs vary so much due to placement, clothing, etc,
they are much more likely still to need EQ.

Sure, things sound different through headphones compared to speakers,
but after so many years of listening to both I have a darn good idea
what a recording I made with headphones will sound like on speakers;
certainly well enough to know when one mic sounds very different than
another.

Really, using headphones to EQ is not much different than using
headphones to mix the levels of multple mics, which we do all the
time. We ride gain on multiple mics in an effort to achieve a natural
sounding mix - using our headphones as a reference - even though the
mix can sound different on speakers. But we do it anyway, relying on
our experience, talant, and common sense to determine when and how
much.

Lastly, this entire thread is a good argument for prefader iso tracks
- that are also pre EQ.

Glen Trew


On Jul 20, 8:06 am, Ty Ford <tyreef...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 21:42:43 -0400, Noah Timan wrote
(in article <1184895763.242759.183...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>):

That's true, but Marty (and Jeff as well) made an excellent point about how
dissimilar listening to program through a headphone -- ANY headphone -- is to
listening on a monitor. No matter how well trained we are with the tools of
our craft, there are always situations where background noises that sound
gigantic on cans are going to be less of a showstopper on speakers, and a few
rare situations where it is vice versa.

Hey Noah,

When I had the Sennheiser 7509 here for review, I was pretty taken by their
sound; a lot more real than the 7506 most of us have used, myself included.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the 7506. But the 7509 got me to thinking that
allowing for the "headphone effect" we often speak about that diminishes our
ability to make certain judgments as accurately as we'd like, the 7509 seem
to provide a more accurate reality.

Do you have any experience with them with that in mind?

Regards,

Ty Ford

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