Re: Zaxcom recording radios... another shameless rave

Billy,

Will the software detect the dropout, mark it and then insert the SD file
automatically?

Pretty clever software if that's the case, what about natural silence?
--
Martin Harrington
www.lendanear-sound.com

"Billy Sarokin" <bigmaho@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1151428615.163725.159470@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi Phil,
Delivery depends on how often the radio tracks are needed. At first I
expect it to be pretty rare. I've gotten pretty good (as we all
have) at selecting frequencies and making our systems work. So if
it's only once or twice a week I would indicate it on my sound report
and then individually dub that take to a dvd or harddrive at the end of
the day. I would also make sure the editors know that there is a
back-up track for any lines lost to rf dropout.

If things got real nasty (which they eventually will) I would probably
dub all my sd cards to dvd or hd on a daily basis. I would burn my
normal dvds on the Deva as always (usually a single track for telecine
and up to 10 tracks for post). To dub the sd cards I'd load the
single track dailies dvds into a laptop and the sd cards into a multi
card reader attached to the usb port. The software would compare the 2
and cull the actual takes off the sd cards and burn it to the internal
hd or a firewire (or usb) external drive for delivery to post. As I
mentioned before, unless we're totally getting killed by rfi I
don't foresee the picture editors or telecine needing the radio
tracks. If so, the producers will have to hire an assistant editor to
re-constitute the sound. I don't think it will get to that point.
As long as we use frequency agile radios with a 25-30 hHz bandwidth, we
should be able to find enough freqs to get by on a reasonable basis.

btw, I'd probably do this dubbing process a day late. Instead of
staying at wrap to dub the radio tracks I'd do them at a slow moment
the next day. This all remains to be seen.

As I mentioned in a previous post, I would recommend to post that they
ignore the radio tracks until the final sound edit. If it's only an
occasional hit it would be no big deal during the picture edit. And it
would be no big deal for the sound editors to slug in the missing bits
once they're dealing with a 2 hour film and not 200 hours of dailies.
All in all, I don't see this as a giant rigourmerall (Christ, how
d' ya spell that? Sorry for you non-native English speakers out
there). At the end of the day the dialog editor will go through the
film, log the missing bits and re-constitute them from the radio track
dvds. It's a hell of a lot easier than looping them and then cutting
in the looped bits.

I don't know the metadata capabilities of the radios. Usually you
would turn it on and forget it, only changing the batteries and the sd
cards after lunch. In that case you'd only have one file on each sd
card, so the meta data wouldn't be that meaningful. Time code would
be the best reference option. You can turn recording on and off with
the IFB remote, but I'd be afraid that I'd forget to turn it on.
So I'd just leave the damn thing running.

Btw, the software is not Deva dependent. It's a Mac/PC utility that
will work with any audio files. It looks a lot like any common cd
burner software.

Phi wrote:
"In fact--with
recording TXs, who needs a sound man anyway? Have the video assist guy

run a little mixer for monitoring! I'm going into the recording TX
rental business! "

Not sure these will replace us all too soon. Though I'm sure
somewhere some one man band eng camera guy will think it does.
Doesn't matter. If he hires a sound guy he only wants to pay $50 a
day for gear anyway. No great loss.
All the best,
Billy Sarokin



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