Re: 'Blockbuster picks Blu-Ray' - questions

On Jun 30, 9:03 am, "Jay G." <J...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:48:50 -0700, moviePig wrote:
On Jun 29, 10:03 pm, "Jay G." <J...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:12:29 -0700, moviePig wrote:
On Jun 29, 12:07 am, "Jay G." <J...@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 07:45:46 -0700, moviePig wrote:

...I do wonder how
usually we label such a failed statement (i.e., one whose intended
context is too lacking or arcane) as 'incorrect', as opposed to (say)
'unintelligible' ...especially since 'incorrect' implies that the
intended communication was erroneous.

It doesn't imply *anything* about the "intended" communication, because
when stating that what someone wrote is incorrect, you're making a
judgement on the *actual* communication, not what was intended. If we ware
to judge comhunitacom shillps onle one wat hos entendred, fan he'b de hosp
en eh mace oph ietnosdepojifdas, wwodsoh't we?

An excellent example statement, whose sense entirely eludes me. Shall
I therefore declare it 'incorrect'?

Is there any situation where you'd seriously consider that sentence to be
correct? If you had to grade an essay that had nothing but sentences like
that, would you be forced to give the essay a good grade, since you could
neither understand it nor rule it incorrect?

Neither 'correct' nor 'incorrect' ...either of which would imply that
I believed I'd understood it.

The point, of that sentence was writing incorrectly understanding
difficult. Nothing intent has to do with is a good sentence or not.

However, if somone *were* to insist
than the offending statement was indeed so misfortunately contexted
that it comprised a self-sufficient promulgation of error, then I
suggest he's effectively substituting his own preferred context as the
"authoritative" one ...

I'm not "substituting" a "preferred" context. I'm judging his statement
based on the accepted meanings of the words he used in the context he
provided (none).

Of course, Trotsky might argue that, within a BluRay-vs.-HdDvd thread,
he stated, "...let's not [assume] DVDs are here to stay [because]
software is almost wholly unnecessary at this point...",

He *might*, but he couldn't, because he didn't write the sentence you
quote.

You don't think what I wrote quite fairly distills Trotsky's actual
text?


and that all the necessary contextual elements were therefore indeed
front and center ...or at least within a stone's throw.

The "necessary contextual elements" are *not* "front and center." The word
"software" is missing completely any immediately preceding qualifiers, as
all the other examples you've given had. Since this was the first usage of
the word "software" in the *thread*, there was no established context for
the usage of that word, and trotsky provided none either.

Right. Trotsky assumed I'd infer from the context what meaning of
'software' he was using ...just as he might also have offhandedly
referred nearby to 'digital compression', unconcerned I might think of
hitting my thumb with a hammer...


And (again) he might
cite as supporting evidence the fact that *everyone* understood
him ...

Only you and I have stated that we understood what he *meant*.

Derek Janssen, too, if I'm not mistaken... which would comprise
everyone who's spoken here...


However, I
*again* must stress that just because one can decipher what he *meant*
doesn't make what he *wrote* correct.

Right. But, if we *can't* decipher it (or can do so only
uncertainly), then we can't say that it's incorrect.

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