Re: OT: Oh Crap this will make me vote for Obama

On Oct 16, 9:39�pm, Sis <siste...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ron Allard wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:48:58 -0700 (PDT), Siglow <newyorkskyli...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Obama said last night that "small businesses will be deferred from
those taxes. You'll be able to keep you money Joe." Guess you'll be
able to continue your "patriotic duty" huh.
Siglow
Obama , however, hasn't provided his definition of "small business"....
Well I'm willing to guess that the number of people on the company
employee rolls would be the determining factor. But then I'm willing
wait to see if this is so or not. I don't mean to be "Polly-Anna" here
but it sure is better seeing nothing but "gloom and doom".

Maybe, maybe not; he hasn't said...

The SBA says it uses two standards: "number of employees or average annual
receipts of a business concern."
http://www.sba.gov/services/contractingopportunities/basics/identify/...
Considering his continued emphasis on $250K, I'm betting he'll use the latter...

He also hasn't said whether the $250K+ will be only on individual income or also
on small business income; and if also on business, whether the $250K+ is based
on Gross or Net Profit...
Lots of things to be ironed out, I guess...

He said the individuals income must be over $250,000. not the business.







BTW, no tax increases for anybody doesn't sound like "gloom and doom" to me...
(Shrug)

He also didn't deny that he will fine/penalize parents who don't provide health
care for their children...
He also said that most states have what we here in Pa. call managed
care. One of the pork barrel items that was voted on during the
passage of this last "bailout" was insurance companies would not be
the ones to determine who would be authorized to receive Tx
(treatment). Managed care (don't know if you are aware of this, just
offering it as an explanation) is pretty much operated under the
auspices of state governments. Two weeks ago I attended a "Breakfast
with the Legislators/Conference" in Ohio and the keynote speaker
addressed those assembled about this very issue, managed care. Ohio is
presently in the process of putting together language for a bill to
insure that insurance companies will not have final say as to who can
receive whatever Tx is required. FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T FORTUNATE ENOUGH
TO BE ABLE THE AFFORD PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE, MANAGED CARE WOULD BE
AVAILABLE TO THEM. (Large type is for emphasis only, I'm not yelling.)
Those parents who, if they can't afford private insurance and DON'T
sign their children up for managed care deserved to be fines IMHO.

So the State (i.e. the Taxpayer) is funding this, and the State Govt will run
it?
Govt can't run any "business" efficiently...
Just look at how much Congress lost running their own cafeteria system! $18M
since 1993, and $2M the first half of 2008. They ended up privatizing it after
"four decades of taxpayer bailouts."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/08/AR200...
or
http://snipurl.com/3jba4

Social Security was running quite well until unscrupulous officials
started effing with it. �So does Medicare. �But you watch, if McCain
gets elected, suddenly there will be no Social Security and all the
money I put into it over the years will disappear just like my federal
taxes that go to Louisiana instead of NJ.





And it seems Ohio has financial problems already, to the tune of a possible
$1.9B Deficit and "massive budget cuts":
http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/01/23/bu...
or
http://snipurl.com/4ff2z
"Sen. John A. Carey Jr., chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, said he sees
problems both in revenues and in spending, particularly with Medicaid, the
federal-state health-care program for the poor."
And this was back in January, before the recent problems...

So how are they going to pay for it?
Administrative costs alone will be a pretty fair amount...

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Ummm, just to let you know, not much of that tax money has shown up
here. And that which did, has gone into some pretty dark corners.
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