Re: Solution to global warming

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Agamemnon <agamem...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The polar ice caps are melting and accelerating global warm,
but
the
stupids haven't yet realised that all this melting is
happening
at
the edged. So the solution. Simple. If they can build huge
ten
thousand mile long oil pipelines to bring oil from Central
Asia
to
Europe why don't the build a pipeline to pump water that's
been
generated from the melted ice to the centre of the ice caps
where
it
will freeze back into ice again, and won't melt since it
colder
there
than at the edges. What's more this will break the vicious
circle
of
global warming.

The trouble is, there's this little thing called "the
conservation
of
energy" and "the second law of thermodynamics". I'm surprised
you
haven't
heard of them, what with your science degree.

The pump will need energy to work it, and like all mechanical
equipment
it
will generate heat as a by-product. It could end up making the
global
warming even worse!

Obviously you've not heard of something called radiation. Once
the
water
has
reached the pole it will give out its hear into outerspace,
therefore
cooling down the planet, thus you are killing two solar penguins
with
just
one stone.

Good idea for a Doctor Who story, right? Afer all if RTD can
set
the
Easter special on a London buss in the middle of a desert why
shouldn't someone else set one on the polar ice caps and
there
could
be a monster on the loose knocking off the pipeline line
workers.
It
could even be a good way of bringing back the Yeti.

<<<Immaterial. The total heat generated by the system will exceed
the
heat emitted as radiation, even if that heat ever reached space..
(Since radiation is in all directions, half will melt the ice
below.>>>

Ice is white. Most of the heat will get reflected.

<<<Aggy, (sigh).. color doesn't matter when talking HEAT. Color only
matters when talking about LIGHT.>>>

Heat is a form of infra-red electromagnetic radiation. Colour
matters.

Since you can't spell Colour correctly I take it that you're a yank.
It
seems US schools are now as useless at teaching science as UK
schools.
Letting them off with bad spelling seems to have made things worse.

That's the whole point of

the polar ice caps being there to begin with. If the north pole
melted
the
sea levels wouldn't be affected because the displacement of the
ice
is
the
same as the water when it is melted.

<<<Not so. H2O is a unigue compound in that when it is liquid it
takes
up
11% less space than when it is solid (ice).>>>

Here we go again. You are wrong. Ice unlike most other material
actual
expands when it freezes. That's why pipes burst in very cold
weather.
Ice
takes up 11% more space when it freezes. That's why 9/10s of an
iceberg
is
underwater.

<<<Didn't I just say that water as a liquid takes up 11% LESS space
than
when it is solid Ice)?>>>

I must have misread what you said.

Don't they teach Archimedes' principle at UK schools anymore? This
is
pre-O-Level stuff. An iceberg will displace the same amount of water
as
its
weight, therefore since icebergs float it would only be displacing
the
same
amount of water as it would when it melts.

<<<Dickwad. Volume and weight are two different things Aggy.>>>

What is ice made of fool? Oh, could it be water. Now I wonder how many
kilos
of frozen water it would take to displace one kilo of liquid water.
Might
it
be one?

<<<Your math is correct on that one concerning WEIGHT my little
tinfoiled
friend. Now explain to me about VOLUME.
I'll give you a hint: water takes up 11% more space when frozen.>>>

In order for an object to float the weight of the water it displaces
must
be
equal to or greater than the weight of the object. What us ice made of?

<<<Aggy, It doesn't matter what weight of water is displaced. It's VOLUME
that matters. Fortunately for YOU and your lunatic idea water
decreases in volume when it turns from a solid to a liquid. It is due
to this fact that ice floats at all; increased volume of a specific
amount of liquid turned to a solid that is 11% lighter than a similar
volume of water. Probably explains why approx 10% of an iceberg is
submerged doncha think?>>>

You are totally clueless.-

<<<Well, I seem to know why ice floats.>>>

You don't know why anything floats.

Upthrust = weight of water displaced.-

Right you are about upthrust Sonny Jim. And the reason for that is
that ICE displaces 11% more water than it did as a liquid.

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