Re: Solution to global warming


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> > > > > > Agamemnon <agamem...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> > > > > >> The polar ice caps are melting and accelerating global warm,
> > > > > >> but
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> stupids haven't yet realised that all this melting is > > > > > >> happening
> > > > > >> at
> > > > > >> the edged. So the solution. Simple. If they can build huge > > > > > >> ten
> > > > > >> thousand mile long oil pipelines to bring oil from Central > > > > > >> Asia
> > > > > >> to
> > > > > >> Europe why don't the build a pipeline to pump water that's > > > > > >> been
> > > > > >> generated from the melted ice to the centre of the ice caps
> > > > > >> where
> > > > > >> it
> > > > > >> will freeze back into ice again, and won't melt since it > > > > > >> colder
> > > > > >> there
> > > > > >> than at the edges. What's more this will break the vicious
> > > > > >> circle
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> global warming.

> > > > > > The trouble is, there's this little thing called "the
> > > > > > conservation
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > energy" and "the second law of thermodynamics". I'm surprised
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > haven't
> > > > > > heard of them, what with your science degree.

> > > > > > The pump will need energy to work it, and like all mechanical
> > > > > > equipment
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > will generate heat as a by-product. It could end up making the
> > > > > > global
> > > > > > warming even worse!

> > > > > Obviously you've not heard of something called radiation. Once > > > > > the
> > > > > water
> > > > > has
> > > > > reached the pole it will give out its hear into outerspace,
> > > > > therefore
> > > > > cooling down the planet, thus you are killing two solar penguins
> > > > > with
> > > > > just
> > > > > one stone.

> > > > > >> Good idea for a Doctor Who story, right? Afer all if RTD can
> > > > > >> set
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> Easter special on a London buss in the middle of a desert why
> > > > > >> shouldn't someone else set one on the polar ice caps and > > > > > >> there
> > > > > >> could
> > > > > >> be a monster on the loose knocking off the pipeline line
> > > > > >> workers.
> > > > > >> It
> > > > > >> could even be a good way of bringing back the Yeti.

> > > > <<<Immaterial. The total heat generated by the system will exceed
> > > > the
> > > > heat emitted as radiation, even if that heat ever reached space.
> > > > (Since radiation is in all directions, half will melt the ice
> > > > below.>>>

> > > > Ice is white. Most of the heat will get reflected.

> > > <<<Aggy, (sigh).. color doesn't matter when talking HEAT. Color only
> > > matters when talking about LIGHT.>>>

> > > Heat is a form of infra-red electromagnetic radiation. Colour > > > matters.

> > > Since you can't spell Colour correctly I take it that you're a yank.
> > > It
> > > seems US schools are now as useless at teaching science as UK > > > schools.
> > > Letting them off with bad spelling seems to have made things worse.

> > > That's the whole point of

> > > > the polar ice caps being there to begin with. If the north pole
> > > > melted
> > > > the
> > > > sea levels wouldn't be affected because the displacement of the > > > > ice
> > > > is
> > > > the
> > > > same as the water when it is melted.

> > > <<<Not so. H2O is a unigue compound in that when it is liquid it > > > takes
> > > up
> > > 11% less space than when it is solid (ice).>>>

> > > Here we go again. You are wrong. Ice unlike most other material > > > actual
> > > expands when it freezes. That's why pipes burst in very cold > > > weather.
> > > Ice
> > > takes up 11% more space when it freezes. That's why 9/10s of an
> > > iceberg
> > > is
> > > underwater.

> > <<<Didn't I just say that water as a liquid takes up 11% LESS space > > than
> > when it is solid Ice)?>>>

> > I must have misread what you said.

> > > Don't they teach Archimedes' principle at UK schools anymore? This > > > is
> > > pre-O-Level stuff. An iceberg will displace the same amount of water
> > > as
> > > its
> > > weight, therefore since icebergs float it would only be displacing > > > the
> > > same
> > > amount of water as it would when it melts.

> > <<<Dickwad. Volume and weight are two different things Aggy.>>>

> > What is ice made of fool? Oh, could it be water. Now I wonder how many
> > kilos
> > of frozen water it would take to displace one kilo of liquid water.
> > Might
> > it
> > be one?

> <<<Your math is correct on that one concerning WEIGHT my little > tinfoiled
> friend. Now explain to me about VOLUME.
> I'll give you a hint: water takes up 11% more space when frozen.>>>

> In order for an object to float the weight of the water it displaces > must
> be
> equal to or greater than the weight of the object. What us ice made of?

<<<Aggy, It doesn't matter what weight of water is displaced. It's VOLUME
that matters. Fortunately for YOU and your lunatic idea water
decreases in volume when it turns from a solid to a liquid. It is due
to this fact that ice floats at all; increased volume of a specific
amount of liquid turned to a solid that is 11% lighter than a similar
volume of water. Probably explains why approx 10% of an iceberg is
submerged doncha think?>>>

You are totally clueless.-


<<<Well, I seem to know why ice floats.>>>

You don't know why anything floats.

Upthrust = weight of water displaced.


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