Re: Survivors or should that be Stupids!


"imipak" <imipak@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:18d7d50c-2225-452a-b575-df66be3c344b@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Nov 24, 3:01 pm, "Agamemnon" <agamem...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yer, right, so 90% of the population is down with uberflu and not one
soldier on the streets to maintain vital public services. Yer, like when the
firemen went on strike the millitary were manning their own fire engines and
coming to the rescue but nothing when the entire country is at risk of
coming to an end, and the government... What government? The portrayal of
the government was a complete and utter joke. Who was the office bird that
was always on the telepone supposed to be? Where were the government
ministers and deputy ministers and backbench MPs? There's supposed to be
over 600 of them so the 10% who were immune would amount to 60 of them at
least. More than enough to form an emergency all party cabinet. But sod all,
except the bird on the phone.

How come there were no cars stopped in the middle of the road? If 90% of the
people were all supposed to have suddenly died in just one night, you would
have expected some to drop dead in front of the steering wheel while driving
and cause a pile up, but every single street and motorway was clear as far
as the eye can see. Yer, right... and that's meant to be realistic. How come
all the night time workers died off too? The milkmen, the post office
workers, the print workers, the chefs, lorryists, power station workers,
water engineers, gas workers, and so on. Did they all just drop dead where
they were standing? Well 9 out of 10 of them anyway. Where's the credibility
in that.

Yer, and 90% of the population have died off and who do you do.... oh right,
why don't we go and start a farm. This was stupid enough in the 1970s and
why I thought the original series was actually a soap opera, in fact I might
have even got it mixed up with Emerdale Farm. When did that start?

Yer, that's it, take the convicted murder out of his cell and try to lock
him up in the stock cupboard. No, don't bother to try to contact your
superiors or the emergency services and military who in a situation like
this would be patrolling the streets and calling up all reserves. Oh no,
just behave like an immature school kid that doesn't have a clue about
society or government.

10% of the population is still 6 million. If the Republic of Ireland can
function with a population of about 6 million then why can't the UK? How
many troops did it take to occupy Iraq, um.... 200,000 or is it now 80,000?
There would have been more than enough survivors to keep the country running
even if 99% of the population had died off. A few JCB diggers would have
dug all the mass graves they needed in only a matter of days. It's not like
the whole of the country was flooded and sewerage was spilling over onto the
streets so it was all bull*** about a cholera epidemic. Two days and
everyone would have been buried in every town just like in WW1 and WW2. And
then after that the country would have been able to all get back to work.

The programme should not have been called Survivors, it should have been
called Stupids!

And any way the whole thing is a rip-off of Day of the Triffids.

When is Freema going to get her kit off?

<<<First, one night (8 hours, if you go by normal counts) is a long time.>>>

It was after midnight when the Muslim guy took the bird to bed.

<<<Second, standard "shadow government" protocol in the event of a
national emergency on such a scale is to defer all government to the
regional emergency government establishments. (What, you never
bothered reading any of the British protocols for handling nuclear or
biological national disasters? You never bothered watching Threads?
You never took the time to do any, oh, research? There's a surprise.)>>>

No. You mean the writers never bothered to do that.

<<<Third, 80 isn't a whole lot of people, especially as it'll be split
between the three major parties and maybe some independents. Britain>>>

TOTALLY IRRELEVANT! It would be a Government of National Unitiy like in WW2.

<<<has sixty million people, so 10% is six million, spread out over a
country that extends across three recognized countries and a few
hundred islands. Coordination would certainly break down almost
immediately. The power distribution grid would be a mess, as it would>>>

HOGWASH! There are over 150 community radio station scattered around the country, each of which has their own low power transmitter, meaning you can easily get at it and run it off a car battery and inverter or petrol generator. Most community radio stations have both these things for doing live PAs at public events. Communications and coordination would be a doodle. Unless of course the only survivors are all stupid.

<<<be impossible to keep the power stations from either generating too
much (and doing an automatic emergency shutdown, which is what
happened in the Great Northeast US/Canada Blackout a few years back)
or in the case of very old generators, simply going unstable and
either catching fire or exploding. That would take out 99% of the
infrastructure right there. No power, no phone network. No power, no>>>

The generators are controlled by computers. They can run themselves. Besides which you would only need 1% capacity if 90% of the population were killed of and all the factories and offices and shops were shut.

<<<lighting systems. No power, no medical equipment. No power, no water>>>

FOOL! Hospitals have their own emergency back up generators. They should be capable of lasting 48 hours in a power cut or even longer. The last thing they should have shown was a deserted hospital with Lesbiandoctorbird roaming around in the dark.

<<<supply. No power, no electronic devices of any kind other than those
on emergency generators, and those don't last long.>>>

<<<Fourth, it's not a Day-of-the-Triffids ripoff. Did you bother reading
Terry Nation's interviews when he was first imagining the series, when>>>

Um... How old was I back then? 1973 was it?

<<<he was actually running his own farm to see what it would be like and
whether modern man was even capable of being self-sufficient to the
necessary degree? (His wife forced him to quit within weeks, so the
answer is no. Modern man would rather die than be self-sufficient.)>>>

Oh, so he actually ran a farm. So what. So did my grandparents before the Turks ethnically cleansed them. What's so difficult about it? During and before the War they didn't even have electricity or fridges or freezers, not in the country, and had to get all their water from a well. That was only about 20 or 30 years before Terry Nation devised his series. It wasn't anything new. People still managed to live. In Africa and India the situation faced by farmers is even worse even today. Only a stupid would be incapable of running a farm properly.

<<<Fifth, viruses don't kill people immediately. Even a theoretical super->>>

Tell that to the writers, because that's what they made it do.

<<<virus takes time. (Some of the fastest and deadliest of viruses out
there, such as Ebola, can take several days of deteriorating
condition. In other words, nobody would die at the wheel. This isn't>>>

But that's what they showed happening. Muslimguy goes to bed with Birdhepickedup with hardly any symptoms, Freema goes to bed with Lesbiandoctorbird and 6 hours later Birdhepickedup and Freema are dead, well, I don't believe Freema is dead, but Birdhepickedup is, and all the people in the Mosque got to pray in the night and the next morning they wake up dead.

<<<Agatha Christie. You can reckon on a 4-5 hour window between first
feeling symptoms and being incapacitated, even in a worst-case
scenario. Unless you're driving a Sinclair C5, that's long enough to
reach the side of the road.)>>>

<<<Sixth, you would probably not see the British Army performing civil
control in a situation like that. They are trained for biological>>>

Of course you would. It's their job. They are specifically trained for it.

<<<attacks, yes, and will have identified the threat as a biological
airbourne agent far more quickly than the civilian authorities. Their
first reaction would be to isolate as many healthy members of the
military as they could and get them into deep bunkers. Let the agent
burn itself out. No point in risking military lives at the start when
they'll be needed for law enforcement and other such duties once some
sort of government had been able to reassert itself. Nobody but a fool
(or you) would waste lives on a fool's mission. Individual battles are
unimportant, it is only the victory conditions that matter.>>>

They would have put on Bio-Chemical-Nuclear warfare suits and gone out with machine guns to patrol the streets and round up the survivors and put them all in one place where they could rebuild.

<<<In short, you are an ignoramus about Britain, about technology, about>>>

You are the ignorant. You don't have a clue about history and about how countries are run or about disaster survival.

<<<society, about strategy and tactics, about history (another thing that
doesn't come as a shock) or about the interdependencies in modern
society (but, then, since you've practically admitted to being an
Aryan Nation extremist, your ignorance of anything resembling modern
life is not a shock).>>>

YOU ARE INSANE! You don't even know that no-one called themselves Aryans except a specific tribe of Medo-Armenians and don't have a clue how society works.

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