Re: Hey Pechie Ashie PAssion

Not everyone has 33k modems

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"The Doctor" <doctor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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In article <slrnge1s1b.dme.andyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Andy Leighton <andyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:35:42 +0000 (UTC),
The Doctor <doctor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In article <slrnge13ko.bp6.andyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
Andy Leighton <andyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 21:55:39 +0000 (UTC),
The Doctor <doctor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In Canada, Civil Rights movement mad a case for criminals to vote.

You are right, that is a joke.

So in a number of countries convicts can vote. A fair proportion of
Liberal Democrats want prisoners to have the vote. For people serving
short sentences and those nearing the end of a long sentence I cannot
see what is wrong with the proposal. After all those people are going
to have to live in the same society as all the other voters so
shouldn't
they have a chance to determine their representative too?


You are on. We might have to move this according.

Prison is suppose to be punishment. You do the
crime , you lose your rights and priveleges until you have
completed your sentence.

But a prisoner doesn't lose all his/her rights. The rights that society
chooses to withhold are completely abitrary. Loss of freedom of
movement, expression and association are by definition altered by being
imprisoned. Loss of voting is something that is not integral to being
imprisoned.

In Australia prisoners who are serving a sentence of less
than three years have to vote (like all other Australians it is
mandatory).

18 countries in Europe (who have ratified the ECHR) allow all
prisoners to vote.

Even in Britain some prisoners are allowed to vote now - those who are on
remand (have yet to be sentenced), and those in prison for contempt of
court and for non-payment of fines. The current govt. are consulting
on giving a larger segment of (and maybe all) the prison population
the vote - mainly because they have to having lost a sequence of court
cases on this issue.


Wouldn't this be expensive to track?

Sounds like a tiered system.
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