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In rec.arts.drwho on Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:54:33 +0100, Agamemnon
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And The Gods? I doubt it.

And The Gods. They were historical kings of Greece, Phoenicia and Egypt.
Their names are on record from the time they ruled.

Do you believe that Theseus ruled Athens?

Yes. Thesues is an undisputed historical king of Athens.

"Theseus (Greek: Θησεύς) was a legendary king of Athens"

No he wasn't. There was only one Theseus and his existence is a historically documented and undisputed FACT. He was not the combination of any other kings of the same name of who did similar deeds so he is not legendary.


<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theseus>

Anyone can edit Wikipedia, nearly all of them unqualified.


Do you consider legend and history to be the same?

You don't have a clue what legend means or what history is. See above. Theseus is a historically documented and undisputed FACT. There is NOT ONE single ancient historian who disputed his existence.


If so, where are the contemporary records of his reign?

There are Linear B inscriptions contemporary with his reign which name
almost all of the Greek Gods

Irrelevant, unless Theseus is named.

TWADDLE! Theseus bones were documented with his name at his shrine in Scyros when Cimon brought them back to Athens.

Erichthonius (king of Troy and probable also the same persons as thee king of Athens of the same name and thus one of Theseus ancestors), Tros, Odysseus and the Achaeans, Lycians, and Trojans are all documented in Hittite texts. Epaphus, Apis (Sarapis), Agenor, Zeus and the Danaioi, the Cypriot Teukrians, and the Achaeans are all documented in Egyptian texts. Zeus and Saturn are also documented in Minoan texts and almost all of the Greek Gods are named in Mycenaean religious texts. On top of that all the cities and palaces that existed at the time of Theseus have all been discovered. Theseus' existence is beyond dispute. It is an accepted and undisputed historical fact.


and there are also historical texts and
historical monuments which prove Theseus existed.

Proof, please.

The proof is in every ancient Greek and Roman historical texts and in Mycenaean's, Minoan, Egyptian, and Hittite archaeology.


His bones were carried
back to Athens from Scyros by Cimon, son of Miltiades in the 5th century BC.

I have no doubt that *somebody's* bones were carried back. Perhaps
they were really Jehovah III's bones.

Nope. They were Theseus bones. If you dispute they were Theseus bones, when this event happened only 800 years after Theseus death then you might as well dispute that the bones of William the Conqueror and those of all the English kings up to about 1200 AD including those of Richard I which are interred in France are actually theirs too. Come on tell me Richard I's bones are fake? Tell me William the Conqueror never existed? Stop making yourself look a fool.


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