Re: Is Donna now dead?

On 8 Jun, 21:31, "Agamemnon" <agamem...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On 8 Jun, 13:22, "Agamemnon" <agamem...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
that can be separated from body and brain function.

Which is why I feel like me and you feel like you. Her soul was contained in
the quantum states of her brain.

Based on what? Personality, feelings and mental states are
demonstrably the product of coarse-scale brain functions, on the level
of areas of the brain and neuronal connections - far above the quantum
scale.

In any case, what evidence do you have to suggest this isn't a quantum
computer?

As such when Donna was vaporised she died.
Any copy of those states would be impossible without killing her "soul".
Only a transfer of her constituent atoms and sub-atomic particles essential
for thought, though quantum tunnelling would allow her to still be alive.

No subatomic particles are essential for thought - it's an emergent
property of neural connections on the scale of aggregates of cells and
electrical impulses.

So is the real Donna actually dead?

Not a meaningful question in context. What can be said is that the
data that was Donna in the computer is no longer in the computer, and
has been translated into the organism that is Donna - so it's
essentially the same set of information it was originally.

No. It's a copy. It's not the original Donna. The original Donna died. This
new Donna is a copy. She might not think she is a copy, but she is. She is
no mean the real Donna than the copy of River Song in the computer is the
real River Song.

Remember your favourite equation, E=mc2. The matter that was Donna was
converted into energy in the transporter, and ultimately back into
matter. The individual atoms were different, but it's exactly the same
information being transmitted from Donna to computer to Donna again.
As Elvis points out, this really isn't any different from the turnover
of molecules in the body over time.

Phil
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